Keith Malinak (00:02.968)
Hello, all right. Happy Thursday to you. Thanks for making time for the At The Mic Show deep dive. Let me get these graphics off of here. Sorry. wait, let me also tweet out. Hey, if you're watching this, well, you are watching this on X right now. All of the archived shows that we do are pinned to the top here. If you're watching it on YouTube or Rumble later, then I think all the shows are down there.

But Spotify, iTunes, all those places. Thank you to Wes over at Second Floor Dallas. Don't forget to follow him on X. There's his handle. We got the fancy computer graphics there. And then also special thanks to Gabby for all that she does over on the Instagram at The Mike Show. You can follow her at Jeffy Apologist on X. Now, this conversation is part five, okay?

If you've, that's why I referenced at the onset, I referenced all of the shows that we do that are at the top because there are four earlier conversations with my guests today that are absolute gems, a wealth of information. If you are the least bit concerned with election integrity and your sacred right to vote, I believe we started our conversations July 4th, ironically or not.

July 4th, 2024. And in that time, I've had both Joel von Pulitzer and Yves De Pita, two great authors. All the answers are right here, by the way. Countdown to Chaos, the silent federalizing of elections. Everything's right here. And this is a must have. This book is thick, chock full of information as you can just read the ways that our elections

are stolen right out from under us, quite frankly.

Keith Malinak (02:04.16)
And before I go, let me make sure I have this right. Jovan, let me get him in here. Thanks for making time, Before we go any further, you see this new thing that I've added here, this QR code up here? That's right. If people want to scan that and send me money, they can do that. But that's because of you, right?

Yeah, what happened is I started it in actually 94 through 96. And it started out with when I realized the internet was driven by numbers and they just placed the name over it, you know, Yahoo. So you didn't have to remember 102.09.01. I realized everything's driven by numbers. And then I realized every freaking product in the world. Here's a new book, you know, just got in that that number means this book. Right. And so when I realized books, record tapes, groceries, a minute,

and it could be a telecommunication pathway to exact information of what you have in your hand. Then I basically created a particular type of connectivity, ARS to DNS, made every barcode in the world that's ever been known talk. And at about that same time, as I'm doing this, barcodes are hitting the walls and limits. So I had to create a new type of code that was unlimited and

At the same time something came out called Dentsu wave which is where you get those like UPS barcodes to D deep barcodes and I ended up partnering with Sumitomo the largest Asian corporation out there and we kind of put these things together and everything evolved where multiple codes could be read and so I'm not the inventor of the code per se because I didn't invent barcodes, know that would have happened when I was six years old I just made them all

talk and connect and become the phenomenon today, which you see like you have up in the corner, which is either referred to as a Q code. I call them Qs at the beginning, or QR code, which is what Densowave called theirs. And that's how all of this talks. And they're used anywhere from 10 billion to 66 billion times a day.

Keith Malinak (04:09.87)
Oh my goodness, that is awesome. All right, well, you're obviously an inventor. I there's so much stuff that you have. And he's not at a Holiday Inn Express last night in addition to all of the accolades, but he's also an author and his co-author and an incredible researcher. I brought you up here, Definitely check out their book, Countdown to Chaos. What's the new book, Jovan? What was that you were holding up there?

And I slept at a Holiday Inn Express.

Jovan Pulitzer (04:37.198)
This one I'm doing research and I've got I've got several new books coming out, but this is about AI called building a god and it's a topic that I'm researching for a new book Which is about you know, we're on the precipice here. So are we God or damned man?

I tell you what, it's gonna be terrifying and exciting, maybe less exciting, maybe more terrifying. I don't know, but whenever you get to that point and you wanna talk about it, please let me know. Obviously today having you on, as I said before, for the fifth part of this conversation about election integrity, because it's so important that we talk about this and keep tabs on it. It's not one of those things that you just have a show and then you move on with your life. Absolutely not. This is so important.

it cannot be overstated. And I wanted to get you guys back in here because when we originally scheduled this, I scheduled it for the first Thursday in November, which is where we're at today, knowing we would be about a year out from the midterm elections and didn't realize how hot the off year election was going to be with the New York City mayor's race and so on. So I do have some questions as we just kind of get a temperature.

of the room that is the United States electoral system. Eve, you can hear us okay, correct? Perfect, perfect. You got sexy. So just so that.

I can hear you just fine, can you hear me?

Jovan Pulitzer (06:02.562)
Your voice on I hear it.

Just for you two, just for you two.

the sad reality of the situation is in our country is the important work that is done to expose this stuff puts so many good people at risk and that's why we put Eve on the graphic there as opposed to putting her on camera because

tried to assassinate me it didn't work but I almost died you don't take those risks with other people.

Understood, yes. And so that's why you won't be.

Jovan Pulitzer (06:36.498)
when they have eight kids and they live in Minnesota at 123 Main Street. just wasn't willing to do that.

It's nine, but we won't tell that Is that a new one? I'm not going to offend that you didn't.

Okay, kids, so here we go. I have a few questions here and I know that Johan doesn't need me to ask any questions. doesn't need me to ask any questions. And they have so much information that I could just sit back and let them talk, which I'm more than willing to do. But I just have a few questions at the onset here. As we are, because the last time we talked, I remember you said the fraud is absolutely 100 % still there. It was just that it was too big to rig.

when the vote turnout came out so strong for President Trump in November of last year. And so while that is pretty awesome that the fraud was overcome, it's not a long-term solution and it can't always be depended on. So I just wanted to ask you, where are we now? Can you give a broad view of election integrity? Are we making any kind of progress, y'all?

Eve, why don't you go ahead and go first.

Eve DePita (07:49.762)
No.

Wait a minute, that's not how it's worked. Somebody has to...

go. It's okay. No, I'll

No, was meaning, no, I'm going first. Progress been made now. OK, now, Jovan can.

I want you to pay attention because that's important. mean, I would recommend you take notes on this one. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna list them from one on down of all of the actual positive changes we've made. Okay

Keith Malinak (08:15.7)
Okay, I feel like I don't need a pen and paper here. I see, I know you well enough to know that I don't need a pen or paper. Positive changes, here we go! Drum roll, Pee-wee!

There you go.

yes.

Paper prices went down due to massive overprinting of ballots.

Yeah, that's that's boy. We need to talk about that because I think that the FBI Chinese ballot thing broke since you and I last did a show together. But I know it's so much larger than that and it's difficult to know where to kind of hone in. So all right. So

Eve DePita (08:57.322)
for second Keith, because you've got Steve Friend, FBI whistleblower. We've got all this stuff coming out with the FBI. We've got the stuff that's going to be coming out with Steve Baker and all these things that the FBI touches and anything that we talk about with elections that says FBI in it, there's your answer right there. You can trust zero.

Well, I was just wondering truly when it comes to that FBI whistleblower, I would be one too, but I cannot pin down which box of cereal that comes in.

Yeah, no, trust me that we've had plenty of discussions about the FBI on this show in the past so, okay. all right

No, I've been practicing though.

No good progress to report. so we got that. No good progress. All right. Are we losing ground anywhere? Is it getting worse? Let me ask you that.

Jovan Pulitzer (09:54.766)
I can give you a measurement if you allow me to do a little bit of math. No, it's fairly simple math. Obama in first term got 69 million popular votes. His second term, got 65 million popular votes. Hillary against Trump got 65 million popular votes. Of she lost. Then we got Biden that got 81 million votes. Right. And then Kamala with 2025.

Got 68 million votes. Now way I measure this is I watch those votes. And here we are a year later and now Kamala has 75 million votes.

So do those numbers again, 69 million.

So Obama first term got 69 million popular votes.

Okay, I'm writing these down. Okay, go ahead.

Jovan Pulitzer (10:44.096)
Okay, you're to put it on your screen with your post at Chiron and then you've got a second term. Second term Obama 65 million votes. Then Hillary running against Trump 65 million votes.

65, uh-huh.

Keith Malinak (10:57.774)
Oh, 065 again, okay.

Yeah, then Biden with 81 million votes. And then Kamala against Trump, 68 million votes. However, from election a year ago to now, Kamala has risen to 75 million votes.

81 boy he was so popular

Keith Malinak (11:18.328)
Well, how'd they do that? Tell me.

Well, I think they just keep on pushing the button.

They know the game's over.

I'm going to tell you the secret. Now don't tell anybody. I'm just telling how it works. In every voting precinct in America, they left all the voting machines running this past year because it's the machines that do it and they just kept on running.

That is fascinating bro! crap, nobody told the machines that the games are-

Jovan Pulitzer (11:47.598)
She didn't shut the damn things off and now she's got in excess of 75 million votes.

This opens up so many more questions than I didn't know I had five minutes ago. Holy crap. So now she can go out there and say, was the closest election in the 21st century.

Well, it's several. can say she was more messianic than Obama. She was more powerful than Hillary. And she's close to Joe. Here's what they really did with that 81 million middle finger FU that they threw at us. It stuck out. And so what they did is they steadily under the radar via ballots in case you didn't get it, no PCAPs involved via ballot. They kept on adding to Kamala. Now, why did they do that? Just like you saw with

Mondani race and stuff an they're going to steal it again is they're raising them up be get to that general elect time, it's not going to lo we told you those were le again and again they vot

Keith Malinak (12:52.78)
Yeah, so instead of the last five elections looking like, this. That's That's exactly what it looks like. It's going to be more more ish like.

No, it's No, no, I can't do it like that. seriously, I can show you. It's graphic for life. It looks like this. And then what they did is this.

HA HA!

Right? Slightly shorter, but two of them.

Gabby, there's your clip for Instagram. OK. My goodness. So hold on. And please, I'm going to ask stupid questions. But you're so intelligent that I hope you will allow me to ask them. You said they left the machines on.

Jovan Pulitzer (13:37.704)
I was being I was being a smart ass because everybody says it's the machines, but hey

Hang on a second now. This is what I to ask you. Where are these extra votes? Was it the same game that they played in 2020 that they played in 2024? That's what I'm trying to get at.

Yes, it's always done with paper. OK, and so the way they pulled this off is they basically said, well, we couldn't count at all. We couldn't do it all. And so in the catch up. Part of it, which you never see, they keep on adding votes and it's to make it look more real, to make it look neck and neck, and they're trying to cover up for Biden. So no, all of those precincts weren't still open and running basically behind closed doors and other systems. They keep on technically.

feeding ballots into the system, changing the numbers because that's what actually does it.

those are mail-in ballots, right, Jovon?

Jovan Pulitzer (14:31.182)
100%. Well, they're mail-in, stolen, fake-in, yes, lot of different variations.

I have questions about mail-in ballots. Like, for example, you saw videos going around of Prop 50, how the little oval, in fact, I might even have, I might actually have something to share with you on a screen here. Yeah, check this out. Anything to that there? Where the oval showed, before you even opened it at the election office there in California, how you voted on Prop 50.

Yeah, that's the no vote. And I think it was inspired by shifty shift and others. They call it the glory hole. And it shows what's on the other side. No, no, no. And see, here's the deal. See, this is where it doesn't break the law. They did this in gruesome nuisance recall. We talked about this years ago. Yes. Right. And we were the first ones to expose doing it now.

The lie they made up was, it helps the little sucking machines pick up the envelopes better, total BS. And it doesn't have to be there, and they moved the holes around. So they did it the first time with the Newsom recall. Now, what they learned in doing this is where that critical vote is. In this case, it's the no vote. And so when all these envelopes come in, when you have a very large flock of rat bastards nest,

From postal people to drop boxes or whatever, they can conveniently see this as a no vote. And if they want to ditch it or pitch it, they can. But they're technically not opening the envelope, mucking with the ballot. So it's basically a paper hack, a low tech paper hack.

Keith Malinak (16:14.702)
That is so dirty, it's so genius, yet so obvious.

almost so simple people don't see it right

And I have yet another stupid question. Do the Republicans have no control at all in the state of

No, no, the Republicans basically said, OK, well, what do we get? How much? Share the money with me and you can poke more holes.

Do you think one party does this? Come on. you think President Trump with a coup was only a few bad people? It took the whole freaking system. Didn't you see the news today? They actually had Epstein's cellmate for a while. He basically released the story today that they were told Epstein, they'd let him out of jail if he would implicate Trump and say Trump was in on

Keith Malinak (16:44.629)
Yeah, right.

Keith Malinak (17:10.923)
I did see that.

the and

Yeah, I forget where this Pennsylvania I think is where this lady was where she got her ballot and it was already sealed up. It's like and then she tries it It'll look like it's been tampered with

You know how they do it like

That's right. They have two ways not to count it. again, this is a paper hack. Okay. When that comes in, and it looks like that she obviously that's her security envelope. She obviously has to pry it open and then put in the ballot and then kind of tapy tapy or extra liquor stick or whatever. And so what it does if they want to get to the ballot, they're basically saying, well, we didn't open it, you we didn't open any of them. But secondly, they have the right to

Jovan Pulitzer (18:20.364)
declare that it must have been tampered with. don't have to count it. It's pre tampering low level paper hacks.

Okay, so how specific is it? In other words, if they sent to her to manipulate her ballot envelope to make it look like it's tampered with so that they don't have to count it, did they know specifically this person? And the reason I ask this is because if you look in the background there, wait a minute, this person has an RFK junior poster or something on the wall. Do they have an inclination ahead of time of how this specific woman is going to vote?

It's propensity coded on it, coded into all of this in system. You already know their propensity to vote, their frequency to vote, whether they're Republican, conservative, or no party declared, right Eve?

Yep, absolutely. I mean, it's one thing like if you've ever worked with a campaign, they give you walk lists and those walk lists tell you all of those things. And so, you know, when you're walking a district, you you hit, you know, your high your high level voters first. And then if you're getting close to the day and you still know that you need stuff and you start scraping around looking for, you know, little bit of the lower propensity voters. So, yes, I mean,

they know that woman there, she's high up on the list and that's very easy to skim groups of voters like that.

Jovan Pulitzer (19:50.178)
You can go right down to individual voter. can go right down to the street. You can go right down to the precinct. There's many ways to do it. I bet if I had a precinct, either one of us had a precinct, we could tell you why that occurred. And I bet you it happened to most of that precinct.

Wow, okay. All right. Before we go any further, you talk about how it's the paper ballots. That's where the fraud is. Continue, go ahead.

So. No, no. I'm going to I'm going to cut your freaking tongue out if you keep on saying fraud.

that's right. That's right. It's been so long. I've had you on here. I forgot the rules.

Maledministration, maledministration, misadministering an election. And because of that, you have all of the rights. You can go and you didn't run this right. Then you put the onus on them. They have to prove that they didn't maledminister it. They're probably not going to respond if they don't respond or you do get to investigate and you find frequency of it, it becomes maledministration. And when you find a

Jovan Pulitzer (20:49.198)
of that frequency, it then becomes fraud. But you can't declare fraud. And one of the ways all of the hacks happen, it's all low level, it's not super sophisticated. Everybody was told it was fraud, it was fraud, it was fraud, I saw it on TV, F is fraud, means it's fraud, stuff changed on TV. They got the whole world to claim it's fraud. It was written into affidavits, I saw this fraud, boom, affidavit.

disqualified instantly disqualified because you can't adjudicate fraud. can only adjudicate maladministration as an observed.

See, that's why you're the awesome guest that I have on. So then let me do a little housekeeping here.

Yeah. Got any soap?

it is the if it is the if it's the paper if it's the paper ballot did put you on the spot here did.

Jovan Pulitzer (21:35.843)
Yes?

Keith Malinak (21:45.634)
Did Sydney, what's her last name here? Sydney Powell. Did Sydney Powell.

that

Whatever.

Keith Malinak (21:59.324)
How will have anything right?

I know Sydney. Sydney's a friend. I love Sydney. And you're only as good. You got to understand it was a combative hack. So I got to go back a little bit. In the 1980s, the Democrats sued the Republicans for cheating. Ironic, isn't it? And the Republicans did a consent decree. It means they agreed. They agreed.

to not sue regarding anything to do with doing something wrong in election. And so what it did is it basically prevented all Republicans from filing lawsuits about problems in elections. And that stood for 35 years until that judge who kept on renewing it died. That stopped right at 2020, magically, right? And so what you have in a generational term, that's two generations,

of people, it's almost like six or seven generations of lawmakers because they cycle in and out, that you were written by the GOP to talk about crimes and elections, et cetera. You just couldn't do it or they would get penalized. And so a whole crop of attorneys and all legislators forgot what these things really were. And then when it really came back up and in our face, nobody knew how to deal with it. There was nobody that had any real experience in it. And then we

got infomercials fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, them to prison fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud. And it changed everybody's vocabulary. And every freaking affidavit claimed fraud and every freaking lawsuit claimed fraud. But at the same exact time, there was a person who came up in supposedly an event like in October said, I infiltrated an antipacal. And there was this guy, Eric Kummer on the call. And he says, don't worry, we've taken about, we've taken.

Jovan Pulitzer (23:57.682)
make took steps to make sure I'm paraphrasing that Donald Trump wouldn't Nobody verified that information. Somehow he got referred by people in high places and they all included his testimony as part of their petition and it was totally bogus. And so I believe those lawsuits and time were predestined not to work simply because people didn't understand. I'll give you an example. All of them wanted acceleration to the federal courts.

but we have state elections. See, we don't have federal elections. We have state elections with federal components. And so what they did is they claimed federal foul. It skipped the local courts, which they thought was better. Skip the city, skip the county, skip the state, go right to the federal court. Well, the federal court basically said, well, you have no standing because you got to fight this in state court. And they just sent it right back down. And then

it kept on rolling around with claims that couldn't be verified, that even when it would bounce to maybe SCOTUS looking at it, why SCOTUS had to reject it, it's a very simple thing. This has not been adjudicated. Why? Because every one of them claimed fraud instead of maladministration, because every single one of them claimed, we got PCAP evidence and it shows it went to China. Not true.

Every single one of them said, there was an infiltrated antifacade. Here's the guy for security for Dominion and they did it. You can't verify it. All of them got kicked out. And so 100 % of those cases were lost. One third of them were just given up on and said, OK, never mind.

Well, not only that, but another thing that happens kind of like a ping pong match is you've got state elections, but you have this federal monitoring system, federal oversight system. And if you look in the agreement, the packets and the information that gets sent across those systems are information owned by the federal government. So while the states administer it, you can't if you're going to sue them or if you're going to sue anybody.

Eve DePita (26:03.916)
you're gonna have a heck of a time getting the information because that jurisdiction then goes into the executive branch through the Department of Homeland Security.

Yeah, and Department of Justice where you're going to hit with Merrick Garland, right? Come on Department of Homeland Security and all that stuff is what opened up to all this monitoring stuff in case you read a book. It's a really good bucket talks about this stuff.

Countdown to chaos

And you know the reason it's called Countdown to Chaos? Because hold that up if you would again, please. You see Trump and Biden on it. It's not about Trump and Biden. It's about how did they set up that storm? It goes backwards in time. There's no theory in it. There's no rumor in it. It's their documents, their memos, their letters, their agreements, their speeches and everything that shows how they led up to this so they could pull that off at that moment in time.

Yeah, and it has got the ballots there. See that right now?

Jovan Pulitzer (27:00.568)
That's right. None of them are folded. Very subtle.

And you know, there's potential here for another book. So the research that continues. Yeah, right.

We're just struggling with the title.

I voted for it's all fucked up, but she thought that was a little too hard.

Well, God, Lord.

Keith Malinak (27:20.38)
So, what were we saying, Eve?

What do want me to say? I want to be truthful. Come on. We want to be truthful. Total crap. Pooh poo. I mean, how do we equate that? The pooch didn't work either. You shot that one now.

I

Keith Malinak (27:33.902)
Screw it!

I know.

You shut down Screw the Poot out of

Yes, I thought you should have seen my art. It was like right on.

Good Lord, God help us all. but, well, you know, how about living in chaos, continued chaos?

Keith Malinak (27:52.958)
that's I vote for that one.

I think it could say one word, mandani. Yeah. One word says it all. Now that would be good. Hey, you know what, Eva, I like that. Nothing but chaos. Okay, I like that.

Yeah, I want

Nothing but chaos.

I have.

Keith Malinak (28:09.792)
as it relates to the voting machines. Dominion voting recently sold to an outfit Liberty. Is there anything that we need to take away from that news?

Yes, all the voting companies since the 1980s, every time there's a trouble or problem sold to other people in the voting industry and they changed their name. It's happened 16 times. I did a program on it 16 times before. Every time there were big investigations, they just drop it, sell it, flip it to someone else. They give it a new name as they circulate executives. But let me ask you a question. I just want to ask you a question.

No questions.

Go ahead. ahead. Think about this for a moment. So Dominion, because of the lie about the I infiltrated an antifacal, sued people for $9 billion. Now, if you're going to believe if you're going to believe the machines are bad, you got to believe the machine companies did something. You got to believe what they're covering their butt because they don't want it known. So $9 billion in lawsuits.

I think it's well over a billion dollars in cash payouts to Dominion. And they still have all these contracts. Why would they sell? Well, here's what you need to do. You've got to make it look like it changed. So what did they do? They changed the name Liberty Voting. And it's bought by a Republican. How convenient. If you look at every little element, it's all the things they need to make you think something changed.

Jovan Pulitzer (29:50.798)
a thing changed. And do Republican when you got a million, a billion and on the

And let's take a close look at the company that they're married it with. And like you said, it's more of a marriage than a buyout. But this is an e-poll book company. And if you've read that lovely book that you just held up, you'll understand. Again, yeah. See that? Countdown chaos. Right. You'll understand that that is one of the key points of the system that still exists today.

It's right here.

Jovan Pulitzer (30:35.468)
The information resides every single border.

Absolutely, and now you've got a permanent marriage.

The largest system in the world now controls the little device. It's a really new device called a pole pad. Let me tell you what makes it unique. You take an iMac, an iBook, and you put a new plastic shell on it, and voila, it's a pole pad. It's a full computer. They're all mesh networked together, just like in Georgia, 5,996 of them during the 2020 election working synchronous. That's a lot of computing power.

But it has every voter in it when they check in, if they've checked in or not, and the ability to instantly add the voters to in some of these areas. What information do you need to make sure you stuff in enough ballots? You got to know who came in and who voted. So you know the net difference between registered and voted what you need so you can manufacture and put them through and say they voted. Nobody comes looking for their vote to audit it. It is a very dangerous. I thought it was bad from Arkansas.

Right? I'm from Arkansas. My sister and I are really good friends. was hell when we were married, but at least we're still brothers and sisters. But that thing that just happened with this voting stuff is more incestuous than my life.

Keith Malinak (31:57.634)
Hey.

Travon's family tree looks like a stalk of asparagus.

Hey Keith, did you ever? Yeah, did you ever see that movie Deliverance? I did. You know with with you know, rentals. You remember the kid on the porch with a mucked up teeth playing the band? I do. Well, that's my dad and I told people that you would would be he'd recognize him, but as he got his teeth fixed since then. Now I've always told that joke, right? Like you know when you put 52 member of my family's in the room, would he get full set of teeth? But anyway, I've always told that joke, right?

I literally had, I don't remember if it was a New York Times, one of them writers, call me out and write that I was lying because there was no way that person could be my dad because he would have had to have me when he was nine.

How could you not tell that was a joke?

Eve DePita (32:49.656)
So Keith, can I quiz you for a minute? Yeah. Come on, come on.

Wait, me? crap, hang on. You can quiz me, but before we go any further, I apologize for not at the onset talking about Jovan Pulitzer because you did a show on this. Where can people go and watch all the stuff you do? Where can they find you? It's rump.

My it's rumble yeah rumble.com forward slash jovan j-o-v-a-n hutton h-u-t-t-o-n Pulitzer p-u-l-i-t-z-e-r I do have clips it's onlyfans.com slash studm...

I said we're not promoting that, remember? I said just stick to the rum.

Keith Malinak (33:40.564)
sure. All right, so that's quiz time. So anyway, go to Rumble and look for Jovan and follow him over there. OK, Eve, go ahead and ask your question there.

So we were just talking about the purchase of dominion by no ink or I'd like to say more of it's a marriage and how this is all over, know, these systems, these e-poll books are all over the country. The quiz question is the third party that is contracted to oversee every bit of information that goes across those things is?

I know, I can see it, I know it. I just can't think of the name right now. I'm sorry, it's been a while. It's in the book. I can think of it, because I was stunned. I was stunned to learn that there was a central database for all of this insanity. go ahead.

Mr. Show Prep

Eve DePita (34:38.87)
It is CrowdStrike. And if you look at all of the news that has lit up X and every other social media platform with things going on with Comey at all and everything with Hillary and her stuff that happened, CrowdStrike's in the middle of everything.

It's the stitching thread.

Yeah, although all of the little charts and diagrams run through CrowdStrike.

And they're still there to this very day.

that's neat so I feel good about our future. Okay so in that is there any progress has been made because the president is constantly talking about we need paper ballots only we need ID which I mean this is common sense stuff but yeah we got to see that anytime soon?

Jovan Pulitzer (35:31.438)
Here's my take on it. Number one, you must know the rules.

We have state elections, 50 elections, which happen to have a federal component on them. Now, President Trump adorns the death, but doing an executive order to do all mail in baloney, he can only demand that technically for the federal level. So what are you going to do? All early voting for everything, you know, that's lower on the ticket, but you got to walk in on a federal day to vote. Anyway, everybody would be screaming, right?

That's number one. So you got to understand that's a state level issue. The people could force it if the people woke up, but the people aren't enforcing no mail in ballots because they got convinced it was the machines and PCAPs. And so everybody's confused. That's why it's chaos. It thrives on chaos. Now, would it be a good thing? Would it be a good thing to go to one day voting? Yes. Would it be a good thing to get rid of the machines? Absolutely. Would it be a good thing to have voter ID? Duh.

right, but we also have to define what's voter ID. See, you hear, see the difference is we apply our ethics over these people. So when you hear you gotta have ID, you're going freaking A, you gotta bring in that driver's license and show it, you gotta be a citizen. Well, that's not what they're saying. Because you gotta look at what's approved for voting ID. And it can be as simple as a community college

hard that you're attending community college. what do they do to the illegals? They hand them a credit card, they hand them a social security card, they even get community college IDs because they get to go take free English lessons. It's all a rig from up and down. And so you've got to understand the varying nuances in this. And this is why I crack jokes about it, by let off steam, because I'd be crying otherwise. We'd all be crying faced with this.

Eve DePita (37:09.358)
It can be credit card.

Jovan Pulitzer (37:37.058)
But you've got to realize they planned out every single bit of this chaos theory, game theory, and it's not any one thing. It's an array of things. And that's why it's so hard to fix. Now, the one thing about the Democrats is they stick together. They can have pizza party, kids party, porn party, cut off whack, period for little kids, tournament of boys. can do that and they stick together. Republicans forget it. It's a pissing contest. Who's going to get credit? Whose team is it going to be? Do I get to name it after me?

You know, do I get to do interview? Republicans don't work together. So it's all these little bitty, itty bitty camps and all these different messages because we're not focused on just what matters and that's saving the country. And the only way you change anything that you hate going on in government is you've got to fix the elections. Now, yes, hand counting. But let me ask you a question, Keith. It's another pop quiz. When you're sitting there hand counting that ballot.

you know that it should obviously be marked by a human hand. Okay, so imagine you're looking at a ballot, right? And imagine it's an election day ballot. And so you know inherently there's folds there, it's in color and whatever. Now let me ask you a question. You got 10 of them from you. Which one was voted by a dead person? Which one was voted by an illegal?

No.

You don't know and you'll never know. So it's a placebo effect, right? But you got to understand everything at odds. President Trump, who's saying it right, we got to get rid of mail-in ballots. But what is the GOP doing? They got Scott Pressler out there saying, bank your ballot. Well, how do you bank a ballot? You get it in advance. How do you get it in advance? Mailing in early. They just changed the words. But if we were to look at the Democrats, have you ever heard the Democrats, get rid of the machines?

Jovan Pulitzer (39:26.882)
No. But what do you have Democrats go nuts over? You can't demand an ID. You can't end mail-in ballots. You can't end drop boxes. That's racist. We can't even recognize what the Dems are fighting to protect because we get such psychological warfare on our side. Do agree?

Oh yeah, no, and the other thing that is really interesting, think, is because I was anti-real ID for a very long time, and I finally had to capitulate for a bunch of different reasons. But you know, those liberals and those people that wanted all that information collection with real ID, I think now we should hold their feet to the fire and say, no, not just ID to vote, it should be real ID to vote.

That's right. It's minor moves. We don't even have contracts with our ballot printers that say you can only print exactly what you need. It's got to have special paper. If you print anything over that, we need to know. If any of them come back, we need to know. If it was a ruined batch, we need to know. And we have to certify that afterwards. Nobody does that. It's very simple to see. And look at where we are.

We just came out of another election where key states, everything was won by the Dems. This isn't over, folks. They're setting up for the midterm. They're going to steal it. We didn't make any headway. People are still screaming it's the machines, which is just wrong. There's no enforcement. Those rules are voluntary. They're going to take the rest of the down ticket. They're going to flip the House and the Senate. President Trump's going to be Trump. He's going to be lame duck.

They're going to impeach him and then they're going to bring in the emoluments clause and probably imprison him.

Eve DePita (41:15.158)
I think, know, not if that doesn't freak you out enough. But I think one of the things that bothers me the most in the last year is and and Mr. Glenn Beck of the Blaze has been on this for the last five plus years. A.I. turning into A.S.I. or A.G.I. And if you sit and you watch some scenarios and you can just just go on YouTube and look up, you know, like an A.G.I.

war game or anything like that. Once we are in the ASI, AGI realm and we have connected elections, it is game over. I mean, there is no way anybody will be able to deconstruct anything at that point.

And you're going to remember that flexes. When it sees trends where people are learning, it'll come up with new stuff to make you unlearn it and flood it and get more people the opposite direction. It erases any positive traction.

man. Okay, so.

But that's just the good news. Listen to the hard stuff.

Eve DePita (42:23.886)
But you're okay Keith, this is the really stinky part of this is you can sit and I can speak from personal experience on this You can sit with people in the system at the local list of local levels State level and you can explain things in a simple terms as we just did and they do nothing, you know why

Right?

Jovan Pulitzer (42:46.84)
Well, they do respond. They do respond. Come on, them credit. They either go, what?

Okay.

Sometimes they add a little drool.

Yeah, and this is the thing because either the responses are I don't believe you or

That's too controversial. can't talk about it. We're not here to disrupt. That'll make everybody get mad at each other. And I want to have everybody play nice and like me.

Eve DePita (43:12.172)
Absolutely. What are we going to do about it? And then when you tell them what to do about it, then nobody does anything because they don't care. All they care about. Too complicated. Yeah. Well, exactly. Because it actually takes a brain to actually do something.

I think it's different. want to try men and I don't want to talk over you, but I'm to talk over you. I'm going to tell you what it is because I finally figured out what it is. It's like when you move to a neighborhood. And that horrible Karen Nancy combo that's just the wicked witch of the West that everybody hates. She runs for the position of president of the homeowners Association, which nobody wants. Then she wins because nobody votes. She voted for herself. She gets out there and she starts writing people tickets.

being able to tell you thi door and point your finger perceive as a power posi a lot of this precinct stu think they're in some sort the vice chair of the county and they actually of prestige. No, it's a p they don't see it that wa

They don't want to be challenged. They don't want to talk about it. They don't want to offend everybody. They just want to stay in that role because it looks good on a business card and or resume. It's broken.

Well, and to that point, Jovan, because you have been in the private sector and technology and thinking for a very long time, as have I in a different place that we won't get into. But when you know how hard it is and the work it takes to do that, and it's just, you know, really impacted me that the people that you come across in your local elected positions and in your state elected positions are a lot of people who can't make it in the private sector. And this is kind of their, you know,

Eve DePita (44:57.772)
their big make it moment, you know, and, then suddenly they've exactly. and the amount of intelligence in a room of these people is so depressing, you know? And again, you go to them and you tell them, listen, we can secure this. doesn't take a lot. This is what we need to do. And you cannot get them to put one foot in front of the other and do

buddy.

Jovan Pulitzer (45:21.57)
get offended and they put you offending them. You're talking down to me. You're talking rude to me. You just think you know it all. I've heard about you and they don't even understand we're talking about the freaking country folks.

Yeah, there are a bunch of office sitting coffee sippers.

Well, my, what are you trying to say?

So,

Okay, I know we're a mere two days removed from the most recent election day, but you've got your finger on the pulse, of you. Anything alarming or out of the beyond the usual Mao, what is it called? prior.

Jovan Pulitzer (46:06.286)
Malorie.

No.

Now administration. Anything beyond that usual fare that you need to clue us in on that you're aware of for the past 40

Go ahead, E.

It's the same story. mean, there's nothing, I have seen nothing substantive. Like I said, that's why we're working on the name of the next book because it's just a continuance of where we've been before. And what bothers me, I mean, if I can just go off on a slight tangent on the topic, but if anybody watches the show that Keith produces in the morning, they were showing a montage of women.

Keith Malinak (46:47.96)
Pat Gray.

Stay on leaf.

Yes, yes, yes, yes. They were showing a montage of women that were so excited about Mom Donnie winning. And what they don't understand is, and I'm like, oh yeah, women for Mom Donnie. And I'm so excited and start Sharia now and all the stuff. you don't understand that in those cultures, women don't even participate. Like they don't go to the mosque. When they get married, there are two wedding ceremonies. When they get married, there's the men. The woman has to show up with the man.

and they get married in front of all the men and then the offici... I don't even think she gets to wear her beautiful dress or whatever. And then more of the Western culture wedding ceremony with kind of the women is just the reception. So...

I think you have it wrong. think you have it a little wrong. I think it's the men and the goats in the first party. God. And then it's the women who basically have to sit there and shut up while the men drink after their time with the goats. I'm pretty sure about that.

Keith Malinak (47:48.206)
Hey.

So the point being is, you we've got these images now on X of them tearing, you know, US flags down and mom Donnie's now free mom, the free free everything mom Donnie asking for money. These women have no idea how stupid I mean, come on, just the stupidity is it's it hurts.

I think we got what we got is perpetuation and continuation. Keith, here's how it works. If you want to convince people it's the machines, which are all voluntary rules, the Election Assistance Commission, the Help America Vote Act has no enforcement rules. So you got to keep them talking about the machine so they don't look at anything else. So the perfect crime is to get people saying, we heard the head of the machines company is going to rig it for Trump.

Then you have somebody coming out and says, we got it all. They rigged it in the machines, right? Then you find out in court they never had a thing. Now when you kind of go this and everybody focused on the machines and we got nothing fixed, if you look at the Mondani race and some of these places, you look at Chester County, et cetera, Pennsylvania, one Republican voting place precinct, all the machines went out. Well, what everybody started saying is fraud, fraud, fraud. That's not a crime if the power goes out. What they do,

It's called a pump and dump. a time hat. And they get two things with it. They can shut off the machines remotely in a heavy Republican area. Now you have two choices. They're going to tell you, look, I'm sorry, you've been standing in line for hours. They slow roll it. They turn them off. You've got a couple of choices. They're going to say, can go six miles down the road. You can get back in that new line. Most people don't have the testicular fortitude to do that. Or they can say, look, you can go ahead and you

Jovan Pulitzer (49:38.68)
Take your paper about it, market fold it and put it in this box. They got you to the same thing on the paper that they control. You never know if count it, but it's a time hack. But they also get something bigger out of it because you've been so inbred on it's the machine. You see that time hat not for a time hack, but for they rigged it on the machines. And so you keep on perpetuating the machine myth. It all works in their favor.

and they use a combination of these things. And so what I saw at Mondani race and all this other stuff, they deployed all the same low level hacks that they've always done. We still got an issue with over printing ballots. We still got an issue with people getting five or six, seven ballots. You got somebody that you see at Mondani's victory party who we have pictures of on social media with five or six ballots. And he's there at the party and said, I voted every one of them, but nothing's done. And then you've got

places like Oregon, it was program this morning, they're not gonna prosecute foreigners for voting in the election because if they got a ballot, then they assumed they can vote, therefore they didn't intend to break a crime because they thought they could. This is all this concerted writ, but when you really look on the face of it, it's very low-level technology that can be done in a way that

You have tons of good people out there that work these elections. They just don't know what's going on. They barely use the net or email. They don't know what's going on and they think they can sit there and watch. And since no Black Panthers showed up, it was a superior election. It's all upside down. It's all low level stuff. So I think what we got in this brand new election, all kidding aside, we got perpetuation of the same stuff and it made everybody talk about its machines again.

It's a joke. It's a total joke.

Eve DePita (51:37.774)
And if I make pivot just a little bit and talk about the solution and Javan kind of touched on it a little bit earlier with don't over print ballots. If you treat the paper ballot as currency and not like US currency, maybe we should talk more about gold or postage stamps. They treat postage stamps better than they treat currency. But if you treat the ballot like actual gold back currency and if you treat

the voting locations like a skiff. know, I think you

to people what a skip is.

A skiff is a self-contained, what is it, information, what's the F? It's a super...

It's basically like you're in a,

Jovan Pulitzer (52:26.504)
A secure fortress area.

Yes, yes, there is there are no communications in no communications out zero connectivity So yeah, what you walk in with you walk out with which is nothing And so if if if our voting locations have a secure number of ballots in that location You go in you vote there is zero connectivity And I I think Jovon can back me up on this. I'm okay with the scanner. I don't have a problem

I have no problem with the scanners. I have no problem with the tabulators. Because I know we don't really use voting machines unless you're in area with a BMD, a ballot marking device, that puts in your vote because they think you're like me and you can't even do an oval because you're Arkansas, right? But these machines are inherently not the issue. It's people, paper, and programs. It's how they're used and whatever. And so I have no problem. If they control the paper properly,

and they

I normally don't get to use this banner here on these deep dives here, but I'm gonna go ahead and use this because here's a story from a few weeks ago to your point about the ballots being of such high importance, the paper ballots. A woman ordered coffee and paper plates on Amazon. She got a box full of 250 blank ballots, but it's probably nothing, right?

Jovan Pulitzer (53:57.646)
Now that was pretty eye-opening to me. It was probably to you Eve I think just like we learned the real estate hack that you'll have a I'll explain this you have an elected official will say they have a half a million dollar home They've got a note on it several hundred thousand dollars note Magically somehow their note gets paid off. They didn't pay it and now they've got a title-free home Then they go get another loan taking out the equity

They got the 500,000 back out. Magically, that note gets paid off. But see, there's no reporting in cash transfers on that because it's hidden in the banking system. I think what I keyed into this, which is fairly possibly smart, I think it's a lot like the kiddie porn stuff where you go onto a site and there's a shirt, a child with a shirt, but it's 40 grand because that's how they hide that they're trafficking kids. Right? It's true. You can see it.

I think that that should be something to look at, because I think that's maybe how they're transferring off some of these things, buying people off, drop it in a box, look for disorder. Here you do. I think a lot of this may be shuttled back and forth.

We should... You know what? If I did a deep dive show, I should probably follow up on this and see where this goes because, my goodness, that... You make a great point. This could be...

Well, let's run this through, okay? It's part of what I talked about today in my program. I can show you a single house, which happens to be a church nonprofit. The illegal comes across the border.

Jovan Pulitzer (55:41.486)
They give them a social security card if they promise to pay tax. They then instruct them, you go get a driver's license right away so you can get a job. Well, driver's license connects to motor voter. So what happens is they get voter registration cards, they get mail-in ballots. But these people use that nonprofit address. And so let's run this. In that nonprofit address where 35,000 people are one address, what you don't understand

If we just did simple math and nobody's ever to account for them. Well, Roger threw them away. We don't know where they went. They don't have them. They went somewhere. But we just accept that lie until you get down to the forensics on it. And it's seven point two ounces per ballot packet. And then you do the numbers and you realize that the postal workers can only carry 32 pounds at a time. That's one of those tubs. They never go over 32 pounds so they don't strain their back.

That would take the postal worker at that place alone, 416 trips.

416 individual trips, but never asked the postal worker delivering those all the postal worker instantly knows something wrong. But because they can't equate that that's about a trash bags full, but these places says well, I guess Benny throw them away. Well, did you question Benny and did Benny do 416 trash bags of this crap? Nobody ever follows up and doesn't linearly chase it down.

Eve DePita (57:14.06)
Yeah. Well, and that's why real forensic audits are, they're terrified of them. That's why everything that happened in Arizona, you know, nobody wants to really, really look at it because it implicates so many different people at different levels.

Now it's Rico is whether this it's federal or rock and tear.

In a previous conversation that many of this audience right now maybe aren't familiar with or forgot, but explain that, please. One of you explain a real forensic audit and what that would entail.

man.

And the myth, the legend who actually did them.

Jovan Pulitzer (57:48.258)
He didn't join us today. Something was wrong with that dude.

My husband, he's not here.

look, a forensic audit when you had petty people say, well, you, you forensically look at a drive. And if we look at one machine and we get a drive, that's a forensic audit. A forensic audit is looking at everything. So let me, let me give you this Keith, and I'll kind of play it to you backwards if that's okay. Right. In Maricopa County in 2020, one of the things that we discovered is if you look at the telemetry, that means their records of how they scanned in the votes.

They would scan about 140,000 ballots a day in the lead up and they were using 10 tabulator machines to do it. Now they told us that they needed 10 extra days of counting. Remember it was the first one. We need 10 extra days to count. If you look at those 10 extra days, basically they had one day that was about 90,000 ballots. They had two days they counted nothing. The average of days was only about 7,000 ballots.

and they used only two of the tabulators. So if they were overloaded and need 10 extra days, what the hell did they do? Right? Because it doesn't show it on their own stuff. But you got this little blip out here on the radar, 30 days after the election, boom, 120,000 ballots go in. Am I wrong? Yeah, it's always after county certification, state certification, and federal certification. But they go in, boom. Now we're going to back up.

Eve DePita (59:10.273)
and after certification.

Jovan Pulitzer (59:20.238)
So one of the problems we had in Maricopa, you saw that little ditty where, you know, turn over the routers and they give this stuff, which they never did, because we could get the real information. I wrote this story that, look, there's a low level paper hat that they do with a Sharpie. This was the first time in elections they told you, you must use a Sharpie. It literally had emails. I exposed them all. You must make people use a Sharpie.

The county did a promotion for over a year. have a brand new paper called Vote Secure and the Sharpie will not bleed through. And then they came out with a plausible story that the ink gums up the machines. So we got to go to Sharpies. There is not one single repair order we can find on a scanner that the ink clogged it, but forget that. So what they did is they didn't even provision the precincts with pens. They gave them all Sharpies, right? So on election day,

Everybody has to vote with Sharpies. On those, we'll call it 130,000 ballots, they had 2.1 million extra votes. The bleed throughs, and that confuses the machine. So what it does, it lets them temporarily suspend them. They know what's there, but they suspend it. Now we're gonna go one back. We had to fight for these ballot images. So we got, we'll just call it 1.8 million, 1.9 million images the proper way. We get the post image.

The preimage, the post image, the CVR, election management files and all the formats. It's all there. Except a batch of them, we'll call it about 120,000, somehow they were missing. We keep asking for them, keep asking for them. It's finally time for them to get handcuffed because the subpoena comes. They're going to go to jail. And they said, well, here it is. We found it. You didn't ask for what we are caught.

They had some reason archive those. So we get this drive. When we look at this drive, you can't see anything. The files are corrupted. We got to go through all these forensics to figure out what it And they finally give us a month or later, another replacement drive. Now, when you look at these, these are, you your ballot goes in, that's the ballot. It creates a pre-image. Here's what went in. It creates a post-image that's after adjudication. It creates the...

Jovan Pulitzer (01:01:39.19)
election management following the cast vote records. Well, mysteriously, there are no pre images. They can't show what these ballots look like when they went in. They're mysteriously missing. Well, when we compare them to all of the other ballots, all of the formats are the same. Every single format is proper for about 1.9 million. But when you look at these, these ballots aren't even in the right format, aren't even in the right folders.

The headers are cut off so you can't see when they were really run in and they've been blown up to cut off that information. If that's not weird enough, we go one more layer back. Now this layer is in chain of custody. We're looking at all the paperwork, everybody who signed picking up the ballots. We ingest them all. I teach the systems to recognize the signatures. You got about six signatures on these things. Here's where they were picked up. Here's how many you picked up.

Here's the security that was on it. It came off. Here's the security that was put on. Here's who transferred it. Here's who accompanied them. Here's who checked it in at security at M-Tech. Here is the first level auditor that says here it is and here's how many ballots they transferred. It's a check and balance system. So there's 28 early days of voting. On all those days, there was basically only one or two times where somebody didn't sign it. So out of six signatures, they had five.

But there's one batch of those signatures or days. We look at this one particular day.

Nobody saw.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:03:16.014)
And nobody said how many ballots. They didn't say how many ballots they picked up. They didn't say how many ballots they checked in. Now you look at all this stuff, it sounds weird, right? That's a lot of missing things. Until you realize one thing, every single one of them have one thing in common. They're all the election day ballots.

They didn't count a single election day vote right. They brought them in, they hit it all, they made up what they needed and they even got that number wrong and they ran them in one month later. And I can tell you every person at every time at every station who was there, who should have signed, but they won't give us access to them because I can interview 500 employees working there and basically said, who told you not to fill out the paperwork this day? Cause every one of them didn't do it. Is that a coinkydink? I think not.

And those results stand to this day.

That's a forensic investigation.

Hey, Joghan, let me just...

Jovan Pulitzer (01:04:21.902)
And by the way, it's prosecutable evidence.

And one thing that is very curious, I had to step away for just a minute, so forgive me if you've touched on this, he does pre-election auditing as well. And the whole thing about the highly specialized envelope machines. Did you talk about that?

at all? Not at all. Um peo and edited 16 years aud elections with that. Becau what you're measuring aga take this 2020 election. this pandemic. And the fi everybody, you can't go a go out happened to coinci season like july 4th

The the states report to the post office how many ballots they're gonna mail in September it has to be in in September how many they're actually gonna mail so the post office is ready Okay, these things come out, you know hundreds of thousands of days. It's super fast however for some reason when we have the the pandemic and Other states that don't do a lot of mail-in ballot or whatever

the Balloteer, meaning the printer of the in April, April, made the single largest order in history by a magnitude of 10 of ballot stuffing machines specifically for mailing. I got a question for you. How'd they know?

Keith Malinak (01:06:10.818)
How did that happen? is, that, may be the single.

know that we're gonna need them.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:06:19.276)
No, I got a better one. You want a better one? I am am petitioning Maricopa County recorders, the Senate, the House. I want to see the cash receipts of how many ballots were mailed, how many ballots came out. Each packet when it goes uses election postage rate. It's deemed on a counter. It's paid from an account. Both parties share equally. I want to see

What was the payment going out? And the reason I wanted to know that is because they said they sent 2.5 million ballots, but the ballot printer printed 4,089,000 for Maricopa. So I wanted to see that. Then I wanted to see how many came back in because now I get the return mail. I get to see it again. I get to see the receipts. They blocked every bit of it so we couldn't count the ballots and really know what they paid. You want to know how it gets worse?

Jovan Pulitzer (01:07:19.628)
before the election in 2020.

We have a thing which is basically the tracking in mail. Every time a piece of mail is mailed in the United States, regardless of what it is, the postal system snaps a photo of the front and the back. It's automatic. It's an automated system. This is how law enforcement is able to track down when somebody says, sends the president an envelope of rising. You ever wonder how they track it down? Well, they track it through the whole system and knows exactly where it first came in.

That is reserved usually for seven to 10 years for law enforcement. So what I'm doing is I'm requesting that information because here's a few things. I want to know how many they really mailed. And if they spent more than they mailed, then we got both the House and Senate on a financial crime. Here's what they did. At the United States Post Office level, during that election,

They basically took that mail tracking program that takes the forensic pictures front and back to be able to do this. And then they dialed it back to 30 days.

All this mail went through. We just want to keep it for 30 days. Never done that before. So now we have no images because they were destroyed within 30 days. Then Biden comes in, they turned it back to the long term.

Eve DePita (01:08:50.934)
Nothing. You got your little banner yet? Can we put that banner back up?

Yeah, why,

But what do I know? I'm just a Jew who's Mossad and a grifter.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:09:04.782)
He's mean, he's got a foul mouth and he just talks too hard to people. So you gotta forget everything I told you in truth. You shouldn't like me.

Shouldn't like you. OK, so that.

Now you understand why I'm pissed. What are we? And comes out.

So yeah, so what is the next step in that process?

Well, this is where,

Jovan Pulitzer (01:09:30.338)
We found well in excess of 200 different ways they manipulate the system. We documented every one of them.

The machine, the GOP machine ramped up poll watching and they guided everybody to machines and ignored all the evidence. If everybody would have paid attention, we are able to catch every one of these. But what's really interesting is it only takes simple contracts. Every contract that ever came up for renewal for any of these companies could have included elements that has these requirements, which makes it

automatically auditable and puts the damn printer on the hook penalty of law for not having the right records. But nobody did it because they they distracted everybody away from it with the machines. The biggest distraction with the machines is we got them all all 3000 counties, we got the p caps, five countries are going to be here, every lawmaker is going to be here, 300 lawmakers are going to be here, they're going to look at the p caps.

We're going to show them how they were stolen. We're going to show them the real vote. We're going to show them where the swap vote. They're going to be able to take this back to their tech people. The tech people are going to verify it. And everybody's going, my God. Then it finally gets to court. Remember the guy that was supposedly the key that did it couldn't testify because he was protected by the CIA. And I can't talk about it. When it finally got to court with Mike Lindell, he had to admit under oath, he never had him.

He had nothing.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:11:04.46)
He never had them.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:11:10.722)
and that's on court record.

I've had them.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:11:17.582)
Think what we've been through.

and how it.

That's what everybody stopped. Q's got it, don't worry. Trump's still president. I laughed with President Trump about that thing. Right there sitting at his desk, laughing about this Q shit. He was still in charge controlling the military. Right? It made people stand down, think somebody else has got it. And then that PCAP lie. Let me tell you another interesting thing. The guy who supposedly provided all the data, former CIA asset,

to Mike Lindell, fellow by name of Dennis Montgomery, has a record of almost 20 years of being in court over this stuff. And each time it gets to court, he conveniently has a heart attack. The time he was gonna deliver it to Mike, he conveniently had a heart attack. And he's protected, supposedly protected witness for the government. The same team that did this for Mike is the same team that got Tina Peters to let them look at the machines.

And that guy that looked at the machines is also protected FBI witness so he couldn't testify at her trial.

Keith Malinak (01:12:25.592)
Remind folks, Tina Peters.

because Tina Peters is the Tina Peters is the county recorder in Mesa, Colorado. It came out that they were doing a trusted build. And so you had all these supposed that techs experts go in. The real story is Tina had no problems in her elections. Didn't think there were any problems. She gets introduced to Dr. Frank, who says it's a six degree polynomial, nominomial. However, he's on record saying

I need a Republican area that's rock solid and has no problems, but it's got to be a Republican area. That was Tina Peters. Somehow he gets introduced to her. Tina says we have no problems in our elections. He convinces her, no, I want to test my theory. That's his whole, I want to test my theory. He convinces her there's a problem. Even to the point when she says, no, we can't get that information. He says on record recorded,

Well, I got people can do it. We can kind of just get it right. So all these guys swoop in with the endorsement of Mike Lindell. They run through all this stuff conveniently where we're supposed to see the PCAPs we did and it became the Tina Peter show today. Look what we got. Look what we got. But on that show broadcast, everybody's watching to see the proof of the PCAPs. It became the Tita Peters show and what they what the guy said, the monkey who was coding with it, right? I'm sorry. My attorney says I can't talk about this because they must be stolen.

How convenient, right? That's what Tina went to jail for. Tina didn't open the machines. Tina didn't take the data. Tina didn't do any of it. The very guys that were there to save her are the guys that did the criminal acts, the guys that released it over the internet, the guys that hacked into the system, the guys that convinced her something was wrong. Nothing happened to them, but Tina's serving nine years.

Keith Malinak (01:14:23.796)
nine years shouldn't have served.

Not a day, not a day. And it's all the same people and group involved in every one of them.

And the damage done is so prolific. I mean, it's ridiculous.

came down 30 days before the election. That was a signal for the county recorders. You think you see something? You speak up just like Tina did and we'll fry you. Sorry, you go ahead.

no, was just gonna say to this day, I mean, as involved as I am here and there, people run up and say, hey, this is the Lindell person or this person is involved with Mike Lindell from such and such. And you just get sick and tired of kind of trying to explain why that's not good. You can't. And so when you try to come up with the real solutions,

Jovan Pulitzer (01:15:10.283)
but you can't get past it.

Eve DePita (01:15:16.13)
they kind of look at you cross-eyed like, you're not one of those guys, are you? And kind of back to that process, and we've mentioned this in other of your podcasts before, but I remember when we were doing the research for the book and I'm starting to find out the connectivity. And I just want to add to this too, we're not saying that we know things happened or we know things were switched.

We know that it's connected. We know who connected it. We know how it's connected.

And it's always been legal for these things to talk to the internet. It's never been a crime.

Exactly. And so when we were going through this, had said to Jevon, I said, well, geez, like, and he said, now I know why we can't get the routers. And this is what I was talking about, the ping pong match between state, you know, state elections and federally controlled tech. I said, well, geez, well, why don't we just find a friendly and get a router that's a friendly? And he said, that's just a ball of worms. We can't, we can't go there. So that was very early on. We determined that that was a no go.

And that other group of people has somebody now rotting in jail, a gold star mother rotting in jail for... Yeah, and they should have known ahead of time that they were chasing a...

Jovan Pulitzer (01:16:32.962)
Yeah, I'll give you another you just tell me if this is a coincidence. So we get all these mail in balance in 2020. We get all this stuff. I'll give you one more from Maricopa. When it came time that the guys in the at the county level who didn't comply with a subpoena were going to go to jail. Right?

They finally disclosed, well, this year we got rid of our routers and servers. We co-located them with the sheriff's department. And you can't look at it because it'll compromise sheriff investigations because it's all on the same thing. That's how they covered for it. It was under this Russia, Russia, Russia BS crap that they used law enforcement as a cover.

Yes, I remember this.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:17:26.774)
law enforcement thinking they're doing good that gave cover for the way they actually got the information so they know how many ballots they would need. And then in Maricopa, they hire special investigators from the military who did a special investigation on the routers and actually came back and said, well, those those don't exist. There are no records. There are no spunk records, spunk records, is totally impossible. But everybody bought it.

No, absolutely. And you know, the other thing is that now I just totally lost my train of thought because somebody just walked through the door and apologized.

While you gather that, let me just let me ask you this. I feel like I ask this every time we have one of these conversations because I'm so interested in the information that y'all share. You have worked tirelessly for years and years and years to uncover this stuff. And I truly am grateful for it. But I feel like every time we sit here, I always think, how are Jovan and Eve able to maintain their sanity?

because they know so much and they have seen what is happening election cycle after election cycle and it's not getting better. And I just wonder how does this affect you? How do you keep, do you ever just wanna be like, you know what? I've done everything I can, I need a new project.

Everybody does that. all go. We support each other on the phone many times. Bless you guys, man. We've supported each other on the phone and the throws of just total mental breakdowns and crying about it. So I'll speak for me first. The reality is it's nastier than you think. It's more horrible than you think. And I don't remember. Keith, do you have kids? OK. And so we recently, I'll give an example, it's recently been inferred that Tylenol is what actually

Jovan Pulitzer (01:19:25.686)
leads to autism when the baby's in the womb. So when you hear that as a parent, would you conceivably ever consume Tylenol anymore when a baby's in a womb? Yes or no? Now, what I just did is I gave you the truth. And that's why the truth should never depress you. Because see, it's without the truth, you get harmed. The other truth you need to know is there's not a single

No.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:19:55.05)
elected official who is going to fix this. Frankly, the people that dropped the ball are the people watching because you are the one with the power. You are the one that when you get up to speed, it is you talking about it. It is you sharing right now this program. It is you getting up to speed because you are required by law to instruct your lawmakers. You think your lawmakers

My God, these guys are ADD. They're pulled all over the place. You want to meet him with a lawmaker, drop a million dollar check. You don't drop that, you ain't getting in. It is up to you. And we are responsible because we as conservatives went on with our life trying to raise great kids, right? Eve raves the greatest in the world. And we were on with our lives. We didn't care about this stuff when we should have been voting every time the damn door opened, just like liberals. They knew what was up.

right? This is on our shoulders. This is our responsibility. Complaining doesn't help. When you when you get platitudes, it's the machines melt them to prison bars, six degree polynomial, and you buy into that con, it's designed to make you stop. You should be running, you should be talking, you should be sharing, you should be educating.

When you get to your county level, they're not going to listen. So you pull those people aside one by one and you have to teach them if you have to. But this is up to us. And if we don't activate. We're over.

Yep. what Jovan said is absolutely true. We had this conversation not just a few weeks ago about what else can be done. And I will say that, again, research continues, potentially another book down the road. But without those things that he just enumerated at the local level, personally, if you really want to know what I'm doing personally, I am positioning our family to have

Eve DePita (01:22:00.748)
alternative currencies, know, gold, Bitcoin, things that if it goes all wrong, that you have to make sure passports are current. This sounds crazy.

Why do I teach people to grow their own food supply and do stuff like that? That's where we are. You are responsible for yourself. You better take care of yourself because nobody's going to do it for you. In a case you didn't read the writing on the wall when they're giving illegals thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars and ignoring our military and everything else, they're telling you what they're doing.

And honestly, I mean, it does get so depressing. All these things that we've just laid out with Mamdani winning in New York, where they said what, they could get 40 to 60 Islamists into Congress in the midterms. I mean,

And then he said today, the first things he's going to do is raise taxes on white neighborhoods because that's what they need to do.

Well, and I, Jovan, you'll, I won't speak too specifically, but in my industry and what I do, we were just at a particular place in this area that you are quite aware of. And I was looking at a particular commodity that happened to be from New York. And I looked at them and I said, you know what? I can't even say that I would have anything to do with this in New York ever again, because, and they said, well, it's just the mayor of New York city. And I said, no, you don't understand. The beginning. said, exactly.

Eve DePita (01:23:28.142)
There's how do you invest it with anything New York? I mean, that's just a, may as well just hand your money over.

It's more sophisticated than people think. I had told somebody, I speaking to a Marine yesterday, a Marine that was signed to very important high profile operations. And I'm just going through it, looking at what's happened to our country and how it's been done. And it's been an operation the entire time.

But if you're American, now you're something bad. You're something shameful. You're something colonial. You're white. You're privileged. It's all a con game. At the same time, while you've been told, don't cuss, don't get mad, turn the other cheek, don't complain, this is all converged on us at this moment in time. Even eyes work. We are a moment in time.

This is not what we do. We have to do it because we're doing our best to save our country. But this is not what we do and not what we hope to continue to do. And I don't really care. And I probably won't ever get another audit because they now know what you know, and they're just not going to let it happen. But we had to stand up and do it. We've had our moment. We're telling you the truth. It's your moment now.

Yeah.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:25:03.842)
This is where, and when I'm talking about getting in the streets, any of that, we're talking about it is the truth that sets you free. If you go back and look at any civilization that died, it's because they hid the truth of what was really going on. If you go and look at anybody who actually changed their society for the better, it was all based on them getting the truth out and enough people learning that you couldn't turn back from the truth.

But we have been trained. The lawmakers do it. They have the power. And it is incorrect. And we've gone so long. We can't get rid of these systems immediately. It's not going to happen. And yeah, you might get hand counting and ballots. There's 174,000, 175,000 voting precincts out there. They got two precincts in East Jesus Yanks in Utah to hand count. Did that move the needle? No.

Okay.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:26:00.438)
It's nice talk, it gets you a lot of donations, but it doesn't move the needle. The only thing that's going to move this needle is to understand what's going on. I think we're the first generation in time.

that is accountable, is educated, is literate, can read and can see this happening in real time that's watching their civilization fall.

But we're not equipped to deal with it because they distracted us with all the things we run around to do with our kids and soccer and dance and this and that and this and that and this and that. And it's all chaos. See, it's chaos that makes it work. Because you'll chase red 20 shoes, you'll trace seven rays of light, you'll chase Q, you'll chase this. Anything to keep you from looking at them of how they really do it. So yes, you got to get pissed off and it will make you cuss. Look at me.

But you know what? When you know the truth, you can't turn away from it. But the question you have to ask yourself, what are you going to do with it? So here's what I think is going on. In biblical times, God talked to prophets or messiahs. God talked to them directly. Here's what I need to do. Chosen men. As we came through time, God, quote unquote, stopped talking to the prophets. And that's where

We have free will. God gave us free will. All of us.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:27:27.954)
And that statement of we're made in God's image doesn't mean he's an incredible good-looking character like me. It means we can create or destroy. That's it. We have knowledge. We can use the knowledge to create. We can use the knowledge to destroy. And so I see that we're being tested on the grandest spiritual level forever of whether we're going to exercise our free will, whether we even care about being free.

and having that free will. And I think God's sitting there watching it going, what are you going to do? Because I showed you. But everybody thinks God's going to wave his hand or you can pray this away. Praying ain't making it go away, We've got to

Yeah, and real quick, even then I'll turn it over to you before we part ways here. There was an update by President James Garfield on the on the the truth will set you free that we learned from the Bible. It's the truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable. And I think that's exactly where we're at.

That's exactly where we're at. You gotta feel it. You gotta feel it.

Keith Malinak (01:28:48.09)
Right, right. If you want to read Steve, who's Steve Baker has been a guest on this at the mic multiple times, but at the theblaze.com, just type in Steve Baker in the search and just be amazed at how much this man writes about Steve Baker over at theblaze.com.

Yeah, and I can consider him a brother that I've never met because when he says thread pulling, that is literally what we're doing. That's where this book came from, was just thread pulling. Wait for the thread to let go so you don't have to keep pulling. You can go do your regular life stuff. But when the thread just keeps coming, I mean, this is what Steve's doing. But when you see what he's ready to draw, when you look at the indictment of Comey and you look at the players there,

and you layer this, look at this book, the Countdown to Chaos book as kind of like tinted glasses, for example, or as Cliff's notes and set them side by side, however you wanna do it. But as this information keeps coming out with the FBI and the deep state, John Brennan, God, my favorite.

It's just- What do you have against Muslims?

god, I can't believe this.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:30:01.326)
You know, he's an Islamophobe. What do you have against Muslim, you Islamophobe?

I just yes, yes, yes, yes. Anyway, but when you when when you look at the image as a whole with all of this information, I mean, what I would ask everybody out there, elections are a piece of this. This is a grander picture. This is an attempt to control beyond this is not only control the most powerful economy in the most powerful country in the United States, but this is to control the military. This is to control. You know, it's this is

full access and I would ask people, collect this knowledge, but use it for further consumption. Use it so that when you, it's kind of like people that smell wine and they say, this pairs well with this or whatever. Consume this knowledge so when the next entree comes, the next drop, the next piece of information, the next Steve Baker information, that it's clear and it's better because

There's so many people that are just headline readers or they'll scroll through their X and they'll say, hey, did you see this? And it's like, yes, but when you put it together with X, Y, Z and everything else that's come out in the last five to 10 years, it's terrifying. And we all really need to be better equipped to move forward.

Don't let what we're talking about depress you. And I know it's depression. We battle with it every day. We battle with it our lives. We're worried about our kids, our grandkids, our families. But it really is, the truth will set you free. It's only when you know how it's done and how they do it to you that you can defend against it. You are so far better off now than you ever were about elections.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:31:54.648)
But you've got to know and learn the truth and nobody's coming to save you but you. That's it. And if you're and if you're not even willing to activate, if you're not even willing to lift the finger and share this program because you're ashamed, you know, I don't do that election stuff. I can't share this. He said a cuss word. Do you see how in tune you are to you won't even lift one measly finger to change this? And that's what the system knows.

And that's why you've got to set all kinds of things aside to understand this as war, spiritual war, angels and demons, all kinds of wicked stuff. And you got to get involved and not sit by. And it begins with exercising one finger. Now remember, you should do this, they do this to us. You should do this, okay? Big difference, it's all one finger, but the meaning's completely different, okay? One finger warrior.

I'm gonna ask a question that I don't know the answer to, but I'm afraid I do, and I'm afraid it's gonna have the opposite effect of what I was hoping to get out of it, but here we go. Is there any state, and I kind of asked this earlier when I asked, are we making any progress from the last election cycle as far as rooting out the, hang on a second, I keep forgetting the word, it keeps coming up, maladministration, thank you. Sorry, I had to scroll up to the all caps one, thank you.

So any state, any state that is just a little peak of light that we can look at and go, aha, okay. Hey, they're listening to Jovan. This is progressing.

I can answer that. I can answer that. There's actually three. There's vaude, burn and grissons.

Keith Malinak (01:33:42.958)
It's over my head.

Yes, because it's Switzerland.

Okay, all right, there you go. Okay, so Switzerland's getting their act together on elections. Okay, well, that didn't help.

You asked have the states made any headways I'm just answering your question.

I asked. Jovan Pulitzer, Yves De Pita, any closing thoughts here? I want to make sure that everyone knows about Countdown to Chaos. This is where you'll learn everything. It's important information. It's stunning information. It's fascinating information. But yes, it is depressing information all at the same time. But we have to know this stuff. We have to. Because if this

Keith Malinak (01:34:26.102)
If this country is going to be saved, it's going to be saved because of not just knowledge, but as you just said, knowledge plus action. And I'm so grateful.

Who go first?

Well, Jovan, I was going to ask you the hope that I continue to hang on to every now and then, because again, I stay pretty quiet. Jovan will feed little images of people who has that book in their possession. And what's that? That list includes whom?

man, well, you look at Ed Martin, right? He's the one that the left was pissed off about. He was made the DC prosecutor. Now he's moved over to this stuff and he's really moving through the President Trump. He's one of them in there. You can see all kinds of people. They know it. The information's out there. It's a-

there people in, are there people that have, for what it's worth, the president's ear on this stuff that...

Jovan Pulitzer (01:35:19.38)
Yes sir, the president can't change it. It takes a little bit more, but the president can't change it. Here's what I will say in parting of what should you take away.

I know that's what I was about to-

Jovan Pulitzer (01:35:33.632)
It was ordained long, long ago that God decided you were one of the people that needed to be here when this crap hit the fan.

And God chose you to be here when the crap hit the fan because he felt you could handle it. You take the information, you'd run with it and you do something about it. So you've already been chosen to win. Your entire life you've been told you have no say and that's the biggest lie of all. You're hearing this, you're seeing this, you're learning this and you're living at this time in history to watch this because you can do something about it. Not because you're here to suffer.

Not here because you want to go lay on the couch and cry about this. I believe you were chosen to see this because God believes you can make a difference. You just have to believe it and get out.

Keith Malinak (01:36:29.26)
Well said. Eve, any closing thoughts here?

No, just thank you for, for, you know, platforming this again. This is one of the biggest things and for like you had said, for anybody that's listening that wants to do anything, share the show, share the book, go find the link in Amazon. I've seen people share it before, put it in comments, put it in, share it with friends and groups, things like that.

And honestly, could make an email and find the election officials in your town. And all the links, all the conversations that we've had are pinned to the top here on X. If YouTube's your jam.

The books are basically at cost when you go to Amazon, is the greatest printer. They're basically at cost. You can get them and send them to your lawmakers. Yeah. Have a receipt that you gave them this stuff.

or at least put the link in the email and order it. That way you got them in their inbox. And when they go in, they get so excited. Something from Amazon came for me. Yes, Mr. Election Official. Yes, Mr. Election Overlord. And it's this book right here.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:37:35.635)
And it's the Chris, going to get to the holiday season. worked out a special deal when you get the book, you get 12 extra ballots that you can vote in the next election.

No, it's 250. It's 250.

250.

Pick your place for your snacks.

Yeah, it's when you order from Amazon now. Offer only available in Maine, apparently, to people in Newburgh, Maine.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:38:00.43)
There you go. Does Newberg even have 250 people in it?

That whole, my gosh, I'm not letting this go. That is a great question. Newber, who's looking it up?

I'm doing it right now. Let's take, don't look it up. now get ready. So folks, they got 250 ballots for New Bern main population. Keith, how many does New Bern main have? Just take a stab at it. Okay, 1,491.

What do we got here?

Keith Malinak (01:38:28.718)
I already looked it up, sorry.

Jovan Pulitzer (01:38:35.212)
and somebody got 250 ballots for their election in a box? Come on.

Wow. The lobsters vote in Maine. Come on.

Well, if you hurry up and order now.

Okay, well, we'll obviously do this again at some point and maybe, what, see, this is my hope. At some point in the future, when we do one of these episodes, you're gonna have good news for us. It's gonna happen because we're gonna go out there and we're gonna make a difference with the knowledge that you've equipped us with. Thank you so much. Jovan Pulitzer, follow him on X at. Don't forget the Rumble channel, Jovan Hutton Pulitzer.

Pugh or pull it sir. Yes.

Keith Malinak (01:39:16.342)
I finally said it right, huh? then there you go. Well, y'all are awesome. Thank you so much. And to all of you who tuned in for this, please, like Jovan said, be sure to share it. The platform of your choice, Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, Rumble, and here on X. We'll be back tomorrow for the Friday live stream. Always so much to discuss here. I'm very grateful for your time.

grateful for you and God bless you for having us and being willing to get.