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Keith Malinak (11:54.99)
Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the Thursday deep dive. It's been a full week since we've gathered. There was no Friday live stream last week. So thanks for hanging around. This week, we're back to normal with Thursday and Friday. Rebecca and Brad will be here tomorrow at this time. If you want to hang out with us then. Last week, you missed it, enlightening conversation. It's demoralizing conversation as always with Steve Friend. No.

I love Steve. He is a wealth of information. Former FBI agent turned whistleblower who has the goods on the FBI and the chaos over at the Department of Justice. And he, as always, taught us a lot with that conversation. So if you did miss that, it of course is pinned to the top of the archive there on the feed. Let me just get this tweeted out for everyone. There we go. Okay.

So all the episodes pinned to the top. Another episode pinned to the top on the archive here on the X-Stream is my first conversation with my guest. And I will get back to her in just a moment. Retired US Air Force Colonel Roxanne Towner Watkins. We've talked about Operation Gladio. And in fact, it was the last thing I tweeted. So you're welcome to hang out here. I'd love to have you. I just want you to know that part one.

You can watch you can watch part two. You don't need to have watched part one, but it is there if you do want the setup to Operation Gladio. Watch that when you're ready. And of course, available is always Spotify, iTunes, iHeartRadio, Hero West, always putting everything up there, everything available at themikeshow.com as well. Thank you so much for all that you do, Wes. And we have to always give a shout out to Gabby, who is keeping the Instagram.

page up and going with a lot of great content over there. Please follow along, subscribe, what was it called? Hell, don't know. don't get on Instagram. It's all Gabby. At the Mike Show over on Instagram. A couple of great people that helped me out for the love of the game and I'm grateful for them. And I am grateful as well for the knowledge that my guest gives to us on this show when it comes to the matters of

Keith Malinak (14:19.522)
things like Operation Gladio. And before I go any further, follow her on X as well. There's her handoff. See, only the best graphics here. At Towner. Yeah. And you know what? I messed up. didn't put my, where's my, my goodness. Shame on me. I've misplaced the graphics for, for Gabby and Wes. they're around here somewhere. So a lot of great people you need to follow. There's Gabby at Jeffy Apologist and there's Wes.

at that guy at PGU. Gotta give my love to those that help out here. Okay, but definitely follow the Colonel at Colonel Talner. Okay, so we got that there. So we talked about a month or so ago and at the time, well, before I go any further though, where can, because I know you do a lot of stuff, a lot of streaming yourself. Where can people find your stuff other than X, Colonel?

the on rumble. I'm at the Colonel's Corner. and there's hundreds of hours of material there. I do book reviews, every Monday through Friday at four o'clock. I do a show, that is the focus of a book. And we kind of just go through the book because most of the material in the over 100 books I now have on Operation Gladio don't actually name

the operation. example, I just finished a book yesterday called Hidden Terrors, and it's about Gladio in Latin America, primarily South America, under Operation Condor, and yet they never mention Operation Condor one time. And so you really have to understand the subject matter to be able to look at a book and know whether or not it's going to act. For example, I know

you're familiar with Whitney Webb's book. She wrote the two volume book on One Nation under blackmail. The entire first volume of her book is describing Operation Gladio and she doesn't even know it.

Keith Malinak (16:29.486)
That is interesting. Yeah. Now, do you think that they just, do they not know? Or are they just trying to, did they make a deal with someone? Hey, let me, we'll keep it on the down low. What do you think that's, what's the story behind that? Why are they avoiding the name and are they just trying to protect themselves or what?

I don't know. I come across this all the time on X where people will tell you part of the story, but they won't name the corporations behind it, the oligarchs. They know who they are. They won't name them.

Maybe they're just trying to avoid lawsuits. I don't know. yeah, Gladio would be. Yeah.

But it's history.

Speaker 2 (17:15.564)
It's documented in book after book after book. These book authors have not been sued by these companies. They're in declassified State Department cables. So there's no denying that they were involved in it. Companies like WR Grace, Peter Grace, one of the heirs of the the grace fortune intimately involved all over the world.

Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:43.63)
because they had financial interest in international harvester comes up routinely, especially in South America because of Nelson Rockefeller and his farming and United Fruit and their interest in it in the banana farms and all of that stuff. So there are oligarchs and corporations whose names come up time and time again. When I first researched the Chilean

overthrow of that government as part of Operation Condor, I discovered that Pepsico had a Navy bigger than most countries.

Okay, we we got so much. we've got so much that we're gonna have to unpack. Let me let me kind of reset for those that maybe aren't familiar with your endless work in covering Operation Gladio. And maybe they missed our conversation from about a month ago. One of the things that you mentioned during our conversation was you recommended the book Operation Gladio by Paul Williams. And I can say that since we last talked, I've

I've listened to that book and I took extensive notes, none of which, I got them in front of me, none of which my notes that I can read though is probably gonna be the issue here. But I do have a lot of questions that there's so much information in that book. And I mean this, is sickening, it's sickening to read our history and read the truth about it.

Chaos. It's not just sure we know anybody that follows or reads any American history knows that we have had our hand in a lot of conflicts. We were the catalyst for so much chaos in the world. But when you take a step back and you actually look at the big picture, which Operation Gladio is, which we need to explain how it got that name, it's

Keith Malinak (19:53.208)
There's just so much, Colonel, there's so much that you, it's almost like, it's almost like every bad thing in the world, our country is the one that started it in one way or another. But Operation Gladio, as you explained to us last time, that was the, that was the, the, what was happening in Italy. In other words, we, and this book goes through South America with Condor.

Cool.

Keith Malinak (20:22.734)
Italy with Gladio. It talks about Turkey. It talks about Germany. talks about... It goes on and on and on. But the reason we go by the name Gladio, and stop me if I get anything wrong here, is because that's the country that uncovered it. Italy's the one that realized what the hell was going on. And when I say going on...

to France.

Keith Malinak (20:49.71)
I think it went through 1988 or something like that. Right.

That's what they say. I have opinion now that it has never ended.

Sure. mean, dear God, the book goes up through Afghanistan and it never made sense to me. And again, don't want to get too, I want to try to stay a little bit linear here, but it really answers a lot of questions because I remember right after 9-11 and after the invasion of Afghanistan, I remember Bill O'Reilly asking damn near every night for a while, why aren't we spraying the poppy fields?

And it all comes down to money. It all comes down to, mean, my gosh, hold on, hold on a second. I'm telling you, this is gonna be ADD central today for me. I wrote down this quote and I'm not gonna be able to find it on the fly, but there was an author that was quoted in that book. gosh. Well, I guess One Nation Under Blackmail, I think you just said that or maybe I wrote that down, but.

It was described in this book as we are a narco capitalist state. Holy crap. That right there should be on our money. let's go here. On my day job over at the Blaze, I produce a show, Pat Gray Unleashed. And we played a clip this week of Nancy Grace talking about it doesn't matter. But she said,

Speaker 2 (22:07.672)
Yeah.

Keith Malinak (22:25.814)
she had a line where she said that she doesn't believe in conspiracy theories because you'd have to keep too many people quiet. Too many people have to keep their mouth shut. Well, I got news for Nancy. There's been a lot of people for, gosh, how many years has Operation Go... Explain when that started. And let me get this annoying graphic off the screen.

In its current form, it started in the immediate aftermath of World War II. Had things like this happen prior to that? Yes. That's how we got Hawaii. Hawaii became a colony because we overthrew the Queen.

Time out, time out. I give so much praise to Grover Cleveland, the last electable Democrat. They love him there because he did everything he could to stop that from happening, but he couldn't be president forever. And five minutes after he was out of office, it was goodbye, Queen, hello America. So explain how that happened because that right there is really the blueprint for what plays out.

50 years later, 70 years later, yeah.

The difference though is after World War II with the CIA in the military industrial complex, the taxpayers were paying for it. Prior to that, we were not paying for the overthrows of governments. It is now on the taxpayers dime. That's the beauty of all of this. So in Hawaii, in a nutshell,

Speaker 2 (24:01.698)
There had been, and that's why I say, while Paul Williams, who is a Catholic, by the way, grew up teaching in Catholic education, implicates overwhelmingly the Catholic church and their money laundering of Operation Gladio drug funds. It is not just the Catholic church. What you find out is every single religion has been infiltrated. So in Hawaii, there were quite a few

Protestant missionaries that had went over there. Over time, those Protestant missionaries had bought up sugar plantations. because Hawaii was its own entity, it did not belong to the United States, there were economic efforts made in the United States to stop foreign

sugar cane from being imported. And so they were putting tariffs and stuff like that on it. And of course, these guys were making bank off of the sugar cane in Hawaii. And they were butthurt that they were now going to be treated as foreigners. They were Americans. They went there to plant churches, but they had got into business. And so the king passes away and the queen

comes to his daughter comes to the throne. And they had employed at slave labor, like tens of thousands of Chinese. So if you looked at the population of Hawaii, you had Hawaiians, Americans, and a whole lot of Chinese. Well, the queen wanted to give everybody voting rights. The only people that could vote at the time were the landowners.

and that was primarily not Hawaiians, it was Americans. And they basically dominated everything. And so they were like, yeah, this ain't gonna work. We're gonna have to get rid of her. So two of the ministers fly to Washington DC from Hawaii, which was not an easy thing to do back then, or travel, whether they flew or not, I don't know. They traveled to Washington DC because this is like in 1899.

Speaker 2 (26:26.914)
This is a long time ago. And they meet with the Secretary of State. How did they get an appointment with the Secretary of State? Because there were a lot of financial interest in the sugar plantations in Hawaii. So they get in to see the Secretary of State, and they plot.

Speaker 2 (26:48.386)
They said you do the overthrow and we're going to have a couple of Navy ships sitting off the coast. Now they can't get involved, but the threat of them being there will be enough to intimidate anyone from stopping you.

Keith Malinak (27:05.57)
Yeah, we're kind of losing the connection here. Shoot. I don't know what's going on there. Check the let me let me pull you down here because you're frozen. I'll keep an eye down here on the bottom, Colonel. See if you can reestablish that internet connection down there. I'll keep an eye. Well, in the intimidation, parking our ships, our warships off the coast. I mean, that that's that that goes back to.

Oh gosh, what was the 1840? When was this? Anyway, it's when we said to Japan, hey, we're gonna come back in a year and you're gonna trade with us. You're not gonna be this close society. You're gonna be our economic partners or there could be a change in our relationship. So they come back a year later and of course Japan is so eager to trade. Let me see if the Colonel, can't tell. Oh, nope, me, okay. We'll check there.

I'm getting a frozen picture down at bottom too, so I can't tell when she's when she's back. But I'm telling you guys, I don't know if we are going to be able to cover all of the stuff that we need to cover today. I'm already feeling that we're going to need a part three, hell, maybe a part four. I don't know. There's just it. It's the CIA. It's and I don't know if I've clearly established this if you're not familiar, but Operation Gladio.

mean, it's the CIA in bed with the mafia in bed with the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church, of course, got a lot of wealth and it ain't from ain't from all the the tithers showing up on Sunday mass. Let's see. Hey, hey, Colonel. Okay, let's see if we got a better signal here. So I was I was just kind of explaining CIA, mafia and the and the Vatican that that they're the

the roots of the chaos. And see, this is the thing though, devil's advocate could say, hey, they're just trying to stop communism. They're just trying to stop bad people from controlling the world. But I got news for you. Their methods definitely no better than how communism would be. A lot of death, a lot of destruction, a lot of injuries and maim.

Keith Malinak (29:30.574)
people over the years. And in fact, the book lays out some startling numbers in that respect. It looks like we've looks like we got a frozen connection again. We pull her down there. Hopefully that will rectify itself because you do not want to hear from me because that's that's never any fun. But you learn a lot of stuff. You learn a lot of stuff as you read up on in.

Barry Goldwater, my gosh, the man was mocked and he tried. He tried. mean, all this stuff. mean, the stuff that you would just that most people would just laugh at and say, Council on Foreign Relations, the Masons. my goodness. This stuff is actually it's real. It's connected and it's it's had a big hand in a lot of the chaos. And it just.

As you go through this history and you see where the CIA and the United States government has planted itself.

it makes you rethink literally everything when it comes to your country and foreign interventions. And it really explains how my theory has been if the Epstein files come out, then it might make the last 30 years make sense. That's what Operation Gladio is on an international scale. In other words, some of the inexplicable

political decisions that our lawmakers have made over the last several decades, I think if the Epstein files come out, a lot might make sense then, much the same way that Operation Gladio does when it comes to all of the chaos and the wars in the world. And she alluded to not only Operation Gladio over in Western Europe and in Italy,

Keith Malinak (31:36.098)
but Operation Condor in South America. mean, everything you're thinking of is connected to the CIA, the mob, and the Catholic Church. just, mean, Iran Contra, it just.

Mm.

so much. There's so much. it explains everything when it comes to the drug war and how that is a profitable business for all those involved. And it funds a lot of chaos. I will say that. And I've got to talk to her about the popes that have been a part of this fund.

Keith Malinak (32:26.846)
It, boy. History isn't history when you're living it. You get a whole new lens later when you read the truth as opposed to what's just in front of you.

trying to think of what else I want to talk about here because there's just so much and I don't want to go down this road without her because I am in no position to talk about it other than just a reader. I mean, it's just, yeah, Iran-Contra, 2001 Afghanistan. mean, y'all, Operation Gladio, that's where it's at. The book, by the way, that I just finished up, it is Operation Gladio and it's by Paul Williams and it is available on Spotify as an audiobook.

If you want to check that out, there's so much information in there. Let's see. I see you. Hello.

Hey, I had to go out to my RV. We have a

I recognize that. That's where part one was.

Speaker 2 (33:25.826)
Yeah, and so my starling just went down. don't know what's going on.

Elon's a target. mean, X will probably go down here in a second. You know, so, okay. Well, I was just rambling about Barry Goldwater, him warning, and I just talked about... Here's what I want to talk about. Can we talk about the popes that were involved? Because just... I feel like Pope John Paul II just kind of stumbled into it.

and but he didn't exactly stop it though.

Well, obviously he inherited it. Yes. And his problem was he began having conversations. So one of the morals of the story is you're not allowed to ever talk to the boogeyman. You're never allowed to portray them as reasonable or open to conversations. And so if you recall, Pope John the second was Polish. And at the time,

there was a lot of things going on in Poland, the solidarity movement and them wanting to break away from the Soviet Union. And the Soviet Union was actually open to John Paul II's conversation with them as it related to Poland. That's the reason why he was shot. That was his warning. And at the end of the day, you find out that the two people that shot him

Speaker 2 (35:03.864)
Well, the actual shooter in the accomplice was from the Turkish gray wolf operation Gladio network.

And the CIA was present. Correct. I mean, at the assassination attempt. Yes.

Again, you're not allowed to talk to their boogeyman because there was no way they were going to allow the world to see that the Soviet Union had the ability to operate in a normal fashion because they had built it up in all of our minds that that's the boogeyman. We're doing all of this. Everything about Operation Gladius was justified on that boogeyman. So you can't present them.

as an honest broker in anything.

And you know, as we live the American experience and we feel like we have no voice and we're just gonna get, we're gonna get the deep state no matter what, no matter who we elect, we're going to get the deep state calling the shots. This is an international deep state with its roots, it's right here in America. But the thing that's,

Keith Malinak (36:18.292)
that you really zoom out and realize as you learn about Operation Gladio, we don't, we, you and I, we don't have a say in anything. It's cute that we like to think that we do, but there are decisions being made. And I think you're right. It's got a different name now. Maybe it doesn't have a name. Maybe it's just the deep state now. But the bottom line is,

This has been happening for so long in our country. It's absolutely demoralizing to read this stuff and be like, holy crap, I remember that. That definitely wasn't what it seemed.

Well, the only thing that I don't find demoralizing about it is if you know who the oligarch, the oligarch parties are, when you watch their reaction to people, you can immediately tell who the good guys and bad guys are. Just look at Trump.

they tried to soft coup him four times in his first term. He's not one of them. And they tried to assassinate him. And what they're doing right now during his second term illustrates to you that point. And the way I know that is because I have spent the last two and a half years watching these patterns.

Mm-hmm.

Keith Malinak (37:34.638)
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (37:53.326)
When you get to having a competition between somebody like John Kerry, a skull and bones guy, George Bush, a skull and bones guy, they can't lose. They try to stack it up so that there's always a competition. John McCain was one of them.

Sure. But that's why, and I don't want to get off on an Epstein thing. That's a whole nother show. But that's why it's so shocking to us when someone like a Donald Trump, who we know is an enemy of the deep state, they've made that clear. They've made that clear through, like you just said, a soft coup and a not so soft coup attempt. When he appears so tone deaf on an issue that his base is so interested in and that would expose a lot of the

deep state players and we're just, know this by our gut instinct. That's what becomes so shocking. And then it leaves us even doubting that. But again, that's a whole nother topic, but I understand exactly what you're saying. But these, institutions like the CIA, like the FBI last week in the discussion with Steve Friend, these aren't things that can be fixed. I fear these are things that have to be dismantled.

These have to be shattered and scattered to the wind the way JFK wanted to do. And there's just no, there's so much rot that it gets to a point where you just got to knock it down and start it over. like Ron Paul has said, the FBI was set up to spy on Americans. Well, hell, what do think the CIA is? mean, that's spying on our friends more than our enemies.

Well, but they've collectively spied on us as much as you. Yeah, so.

Keith Malinak (39:54.422)
these countries and again, we've got so much here to talk about. But one of the things that I'm thinking about as I'm learning about Operation Gladio, I'm thinking, yes, I realize that there is a ton of money at stake here. And yes, I realize that there have been deaths and threats and all sorts of just chaos. How does the United States of America have any friends at this point?

Keith Malinak (40:22.542)
They just scared of us? Is that all it is?

Well, what I was gonna say is I don't know that we have friends. We have mutual interests. and understand that it's not just the United States. Almost everything that I've uncovered takes us back to the city of London. And I'm not just talking about the bankers either. I'm talking about MI6. I'm talking about MI6 gave birth to the CIA, not the other way around. MI6 was the only intelligence organization

inexistent going into World War II. The CIA is basically modeled after what MI6 was our Britain. Britain was a colonial power, right? So they've been doing this much longer than the United States. So it is doesn't start with us. And I hope it ends with us. Because now we we as you said, we have

That's a fair point.

Speaker 2 (41:26.156)
the economic power to do the right thing and end this once and for all.

Are we going to?

I feel like we are because

please, give me this. Come on.

Well, if you look at what has happened in the first six months of the Trump administration, I can tell you institutionally, one of the very first things he did in his, well, one of the things that was done in his first term was some of these international syndicate members in large quantity, like the D'Nostra, the Mafia family in Southern Italy, was taken down.

Speaker 2 (42:13.838)
And it was a joint effort in taking them down. They ran weapons. They ran cocaine, heroin, all of that. They were a pivotal player in Europe in this entire network. And the entire mafia family was dismantled in 2019. In 2020, one of the mechanisms that they had used since World War II was a company called Crypto AG. Crypto AG

was a communications encrypted that was sold to over 120 countries around the world and all of their state department cables went over these machines. So like Egypt and all of the Egyptian ambassadors around the world every time they talk to each other they they they do it in messages which are referred to as cables.

Every single machine sold by that company had a back door. And at one time, the CIA and the German BND, which was ran by a former Nazi, by the way, had access to that communication. So every time the CIA acts like they're surprised about something that happens in the world, they're not surprised. They've never been surprised. Up until 2020,

They had access to every single thing that every embassy ever communicated with their home country. Every single cable. That company in 2020 was dissolved by Donald Trump.

think it was boy it was a previous guest because now you're jogging my memory it might have been Jovan Pulitzer when we were talking about election fraud somebody mentioned that maybe it was Eve on that show but yes yes yes that is a very good point and that is that is that does offer some hope do you think and I'm asking you to speak to something that I have no idea if you know this but do you think that that those kind of systems were

Keith Malinak (44:17.302)
repaired, reestablished when Biden was in for four years? No.

No. I would also point to a lot of the CIA covert funding since the creation of USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy, they became fronts for the CIA. The interplay between the two is crazy.

um, when you start diving into who was the USAID director, who was the director of National Endowment for Democracy. And for those of you who don't know, the National Endowment for Democracy has four subsections. The, um, National Democratic Institute, the International Republican Institute, and one for the Chamber of Commerce, and one for labor. And those four entities

our fronts for the CIA to do Operation Gladio around the world. And for the IRI, the International Republican Institute, do you know who the director of that was for 25 years?

no.

Speaker 2 (45:36.952)
John McCain.

So John McCain had tens of millions of dollars in a budget every year to pay for regime changes. The Democrats have it. And even Wikipedia, if you just look up those organizations, they give you a list of where they've spent their money. And if you go to those countries where they spent their money, every single one of them experienced either a coup or an attempted coup.

So while they were funding because they.

And the same thing is true with USAID. USAID had two things that I've researched extensively. One was called the Office of Public Safety and one was called the Office of Transition Initiatives. The Office of Public Safety took police officers from the United States, deployed them around the world,

And every single country that the CIA was going to coup, they put these operatives in, and many of them were actual CIA agents pretending to be USAID. And they trained the national police and other regional police forces in that country to torture, kidnap, and assassinate any citizen that rose up against the

Speaker 2 (47:12.404)
new military dictator the CIA was going to install. There's literally millions of people dead around the world because of USAID. And there are torture victims from Uruguay, Brazil, Chile, and all over the world that have testified in court that the generators used for electrical leads to put underneath their fingernails and attach to their genitals what had the sticker USAID right on the generator.

All of that's All of that's gone. All of that.

Somebody needs to tell that to Bono. that is, yeah, my gosh, you reminded me when you talk about that torture, the stuff that the victims went through in the book, I mean, that was decades ago. You're talking about more recent stuff.

Well, is, well, now the Office of Public Safety was quote unquote unfunded in 1974 because of the congressional testimonies. However, you can't stop there because that's not how they work. If you follow the guy that was in charge of the Office of Public Safety, who by the way was a CIA agent, his name is Byron Ingalls. Well, where did he end up? Byron Ingalls ended up at a,

at a company called PSSI, Public Safety Something Something. And that company took the people that was employed in the Office of Public Safety, sucked them up, and the rest of them went to the DEA, Drug Enforcement Administration. So the torturers got divided between this private entity, ran by the CIA, and DEA.

Speaker 2 (49:08.77)
The PSSI was eventually bought and they're doing the exact same thing just not as part of USAID anymore because that went away. So this PSSI which is getting contracts from the CIA to continue doing exactly what they were doing in over 50 countries throughout the 1980s, 90s, they get bought by a company called Vanell Brown and Root.

Do you know who the president of Vanell Brown and Root was during this time? George H.W. Bush. George H.W. Bush. So he's running a torture training organization.

Hey.

Speaker 2 (50:00.022)
right before he goes in to be the CIA director.

See, that's the thing, When you're learning about Operation Gladio, mean, if we didn't specifically cause the chaos in all of these countries after country after country, we trained the people that did that. I mean, it's... And can I just say, do you remember after 9-11 how there was talk of a terrorist training camp in upstate New York or something like that? I remember that.

You are the

All over the United States, by the way.

That was just one of about a dozen. Yeah, and we're training them to go and wreak havoc against the Soviets but

Speaker 2 (50:48.072)
One of the targets of the CIA was disenfranchised Black youth to bring them into the Muslim mosque that they were subsidizing and train them to be radical Islamists. When you go over to Afghanistan and you research the Mujahideen and Al-Qaeda and ISIS roots, you find out that every single one of them was trained.

through this same process.

That's the thing, Colonel. You step back and you just throw a dart and just whatever hits on whatever ill that exists, can... Okay. Oh, CIA. Trace it back to this. Trace it right back.

Well, but go back to the fundamentals. They have to have a boogeyman. What happened when the Soviet Union in 1991 went away? They were already growing through the 80s because of them enticing the Soviet Union into Afghanistan. And that's a whole other story. But we were behind that too. And we use that as an excuse to create radical Islamist terrorists.

Because we knew in the late 80s that the Soviet Union was going to crash anytime. They were on their deathbed at the time. So we have to do something in order to create the next boogeyman. Well, the next boogeyman that they picked was radical Islamic terrorists. And so we've spent from the early 1990s till today fighting a entity that...

Speaker 2 (52:39.704)
see that we created.

It's, mean, and it's not just this nebulous thing where you can just say, well, that sucks. I mean, there are so many individuals that who have lost their lives or so many good young men and women who have gone and fought this stuff in the seeds were planted by our government and not by accident.

That's the thing. This is all intentional and it's there aren't enough adjectives to describe how one feels as you're learning all this stuff and uncovering it. And I've only scratched the surface compared to the knowledge that you have. So let me ask.

I've never been deployed to Iraq as I have and been in the middle of it. That's not going any of it.

That's the thing. And you know my son. You know that. How do you, how, I'm going to have to learn how a military parent gets any sleep. But it's, I'm, my gosh, I don't sleep now. I can't imagine. Nevermind. Okay. So, I don't know where to pick up any of this. It's just, there's so much. Where do want to go?

Speaker 2 (53:57.9)
Let me just briefly describe in a nutshell this life cycle. So the life cycle that I've kind of condensed down to a couple of sentences is that the stay behind units were set up to control society through terrorist, terrorism. But they needed cash to do it.

How did they generate that cash besides using the Marshall Plan and Rockefeller's money, which they did at the beginning?

But- Remind the justification. Why would they want to create these to begin with, these stay behind armies?

Well, they used the justification that the Soviet Union, who just lost 50 million people after World War II and had no industrial base at all, any minute was coming over the Folger Gap and going to take over all of Western Europe, which was a lie from the very beginning. They lied about us having a missile gap in technology, all of that stuff, to keep the perpetual boogeyman alive. OK.

So they need cash for a sustainment. So they've got all of their seed money, but they can't just milk the Rockefeller Foundation and the Marshall Plan because at some point the Marshall Plan is going to go away. So they get the idea from Shane Kyshek of selling opium to fight Mao over in China that they're going to sell opium to do it. But they need poppy fields in order to do that. Then if you're going to do

Keith Malinak (55:20.768)
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (55:27.522)
protect poppy fields from people like Mao who don't want them or Burma who didn't want them, you need to have weapons. So we're going to have to have weapons to protect the poppy fields. Well, what's the best way of getting weapons? Sure, I could buy it with laundered money and stuff like that, but I've got an even easier way to get weapons. I'm going to start a war. I'm going to start the Vietnam War and I'm going to milk the weapons.

on shipments going over to the Vietnam War, I'm going to skim them and I'm going to use them for my stay behind units. So now we've got selling drugs, poppy fields, and war. Well what's war do? War generates refugees. So I'm going to use the refugees to for human trafficking. So now I've got human trafficking, drug trafficking, and weapons trafficking.

all going on and all generating cash for these nefarious people in order to have this entire hundreds of billions of dollars a year in revenue. So well now I need banks. So of course the first bank to step up was the Vatican Bank and they were laundering like huge amounts of money.

and they got local Italian banks to help them launder that money. But it was so overwhelmingly profitable for these people that they had to start setting up fake banks. So they set up banks like the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, BCCI,

Nugent Hand in Australia and Nugent Hand primarily dealt with the Golden Triangle Opium money laundering. Nugent and BCCI was located originally in Pakistan but then had branches everywhere. It ends up being the seventh largest bank in the entire world based on drug trafficking, weapons trafficking and human trafficking. And it was taking care of Southwest Southeast Asia's opium.

Speaker 2 (57:45.366)
like coming out of Afghanistan and that type of thing. And the human trafficking, of course, generates blackmail material so that they can grease this machine and keep everybody quiet. And that goes back to your quote that you had. That's how they keep people quiet.

Yeah, yeah. And before you continue, hold your place there. I want people to be thinking as you're mentioning the drug trade, it's not just overseas. It is in our American cities. It's your government funding and shipping the drugs through the mafia, to our shores, again, to generate that revenue.

source.

Keith Malinak (58:34.338)
to fund these wars that ends up putting money in the pockets of these entities. And it's absolutely maddening. mean, everything, like I just said, throw a dart. the drug war, CIA. You just mentioned Vietnam War. CIA. mean, dear God, it's endless.

So a few months into having read Paul Williams book and talking this over with my husband, my husband comes in one day and he goes, hey, isn't Poppy the Veterans Day pin that I'm like, I looked at him and I went, son of a bitch, are you kidding me? Yeah. So.

That's how flagrant these people are. So when I was stationed at the Pentagon, the bank downstairs, they have an area on the outer ring called the concourse on the first floor that has all the restaurants and flower shop and bakery and stuff like that. And every Veterans Day, the bank handed out these cute little pins. We weren't allowed to wear them on our uniform, but they were the little poppy flower.

And of course, a lot of people say that's the reason why George H.W. Bush had the name Poppy.

Speaker 2 (59:57.582)
by the way, just in case your audience doesn't know, the Bush family bought like a hundred thousand acre ranch down in Paraguay. And right beside him was another like 400,000 acre area, all known for poppy production, by the way, that was owned by the Unification Church

of South Korea. And Reverend Moon, who ran the Unification Church forever, was a founding member of the World Anti-Communist League, which was the, it started out as the Asian, Asian People's Anti-Communist League, and that entity ran Gladio in Asia. So Reverend Moon is part and parcel

and his church and by the way he that that church still to this day owns the Washington Times in Washington DC. So it is part of this entire apparatus.

Wait, the Washington Times? Yeah. Because we learned from Paul Williams that Catherine Graham, Washington Post, was a part of Operation Mockingbird and Gladio, cetera, et cetera. But it's like, is every news source compromised, basically? Can we just say, yeah.

Yes. Because. Church.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35.478)
If you go back to the 1970s, the guy that actually owned ABC was a CIA agent.

thing. before I forget, didn't we learn in the recently released JFK files, not to go off on a tangent, but it's what my brain does. I think we learned from that that George H.W. Bush was in a hotel just off Dealey Plaza on November 22nd, 1963. Fact check that for me. I'm pretty sure that's accurate.

Well he was definitely in Dallas Texas. What what he did just prior to the assassination just in the nick of time he made a phone call to the Houston police that and basically in the phone call said hey I'm I forget what the name of the city is that's just to the east of Dallas

Tyler, he was in Tyler, right?

Yeah, so and there was no way based on the time that he called Houston that he could technically physically drive. But back then people forget in 1963 we still had party lines. He could have been calling from anywhere.

Keith Malinak (01:02:55.277)
Right.

So yeah, they didn't have phone tracers or anything like that back then. No caller ID. So they had no idea where the man was calling from.

Yeah, just I mean, there's nothing there is nothing that we have learned in a textbook. That's accurate. There's literally there's no throwing your textbooks away. There's nothing in there that's accurate. Correct. It's just I mean, it's just makes my head hurt. Okay, where do you want to go here? You were I interrupted you. You were talking about the all of the drug trafficking and human trafficking.

No, that was kind of it in the nutshell. What I found the most interesting and we're seeing it play out in real life in the last week. So in most of the literature, if you go back and you look at the overthrow of Salvador Allende's government in Chile, most of the literature says, well, he was a communist.

If you go to Guatemala, well, that guy was a communist. If you go to the Congo, Patrice Lumumba, that guy was a communist. Not a single time was that accurate.

Keith Malinak (01:04:06.892)
Yeah, it's like calling someone a racist today.

And correct. It is like saying the 51 intelligence officers said it had the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. They are very careful about the way they word things. But what I didn't know until I started doing this research is there is an overwhelming amount of now declassified

State Department cables from regular station people at embassies in these countries, sending communication backs going, no, the guy's not a communist. No, no, no communism going on here. We haven't seen a Russian in like 10 years in this country. But what people don't understand is Truman and Eisenhower had set up a national security action memorandum.

that allowed assassinations if someone was labeled a communist so 10-2 national security council memorandum 10-2 basically says and it was it's only been modified to add terrorist conveniently you know right around the 90s where we could just assassinate somebody because we labeled them a terrorist

Well, if there's two things that you can call somebody to be able to legitimately assassinate them, aren't you going to produce intelligence that says they're one of those two things? And that's exactly what we just watched happen with Tulsi Gabbard's declassification of everything happening with Spygate. They knew exactly how to word things to be able to then use the information.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04.91)
None of which was true. See, they told you that Russia interfered. They did. They interfered on behalf of Hillary, not Trump. So they only released the first three words, not the entire Senate. And that's exactly what they were doing in all of these countries over the last 70 years is...

Here's their methodology in every single case that I researched where somebody was labeled a communist and then either overthrown or assassinated. So what they do in the case of the Congo were Patrice Lumumba, after 350 years of being a Belgium colony, finally was granted their freedom by Belgium. Belgium had a contract in the Congo for uranium.

Bel, the Congo had the largest mine of uranium that had been found to date. And Belgium had issued a concession to the United States that they were able to purchase 100 % of that uranium to keep it out of the hands of the evil Soviet Union. So Patrice, when he came to

to power as prime minister after he was elected prime minister, he comes to the United States and he wants to meet with Eisenhower. And this is around 1960, just before JFK took office.

And this will be a good segue because when you're done explaining this, want to touch on Eisenhower, JFK, and LBJ. I've got a few questions, but anyway, continue.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54.178)
OK, so he comes to speak with Eisenhower. Eisenhower won't see him. He goes, OK, I'll meet with President Nixon, who was the vice president. No, he won't see him either. So he's stuck meeting with the Secretary of State. And he says, look, I want freedom for my people. I want education. There was 3 % of the people in the Congo at the time that even had rudimentary levels of education. They had no hospitals. Belgium.

If they didn't mind their quota would chop their kids hands off They were a ruthless colonial power and So he goes I need money in order to bring my country up to modern standards and the Secretary of State basically laughed at him and Said we're not going to cut Belgium out of this concession. They're still going to do the mining and

they're going to ship that over here to us, they're going to get their cut and you can have whatever they give you. And Patrice Lumumba said, okay, then you're not getting uranium, uranium. So he goes back home. Immediately, Otto Skorzeny, who is a Nazi and part of Operation Gladio from a training perspective, gets a team together and they deploy down to

the area of the Congo called Katanga, which was a state within the country of the Congo. And that's where all of the mines were. That's where the gold was, the diamonds, the uranium, everything. So they start a fight with the Congolese army. And they declare their independence, plant a flag, and immediately the United States recognizes them as a separate country.

So now they have stolen the resources of the Congo out from underneath Patrice and started a war. So Patrice tells Belgium to get all of their military people out of their country because the Belgian military was still in the Congo at the time, undermining Patrice Lumumba. And so

Speaker 2 (01:10:14.188)
Belgium says, well, you can put as many enlisted people as you want. We'll bring our guys home, but our officers aren't leaving. And he said, yes, they are. And he fired all of them. He told them they set up perimeters around the military bases and wouldn't let any of the Belgium back onto the military bases. There's only one country in the entire world that would pick up a phone to help Patrice Lumumba, the Soviet Union.

union.

And as soon and they had turned him off at the IMF, he couldn't get a loan. The World Bank wouldn't return his phone calls. They politically, economically, and militarily destroyed the Congo. And the one lifeline he had was the Soviet Union. And as soon as they had evidence that he made that phone call, he was labeled a communist and assassinated.

Keith Malinak (01:11:12.236)
Yeah. OK.

And I can tell that story in country after country after country.

Yeah, I mean, these are things that you just don't know. And, you know, I asked you very cautiously last time we chatted, I said, okay, so Eisenhower, good guy or bad guy? And you quickly said bad guy. So, but a lot of people point to his warning when he was headed out the door about the military industrial complex.

Tell me what- What a warning. He-

Right, right, right. And I remember you had, I had you address this last time, but reestablish that for those that may have missed that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51.338)
So this operation of murdering Patrice Lumumba happened at the tail end of Eisenhower's admit like literally three days before he was leaving office. Patrice Lumumba was murdered and JFK, according to all records that I can find was not even told Patrice Lumumba was dead until like week three of his presidency. That's when he found out that his CIA had killed him. So

Eisenhower was the president that overthrew the government of Iran to reinstall the shah. Immediately the office of public safety that I just described to you shows up and starts training the Savak. The guy that they got to do that was Major General Norman Schwarzkopf, Stormin Norman's dad. And the Savak is as evil

and as torturous and they use all of the same electronic probes funded from USAID the whole nine yards when they reinstalled the Shah. And just so people understand this, the Iranian revolution that supposedly deposed the Shah and put this radical Islamic mullah in charge, do you know they did not, they just renamed the sabah, they did not change anything.

So there's a whole lot more going on. And by the way, I just found out like three weeks ago that there's a lot of documentation out there of the CIA setting up stay behind units under a military advisory group in the southern part of Iran in the immediate, just before the Mosadai overthrow.

So there were actual stay behind units in Iran. I didn't even know that until three weeks ago. I kind of just stumbled across that. We were training tribesmen in southern Iran to destabilize Mosaddegh. So that was Eisenhower and Nixon, his vice president. The following year coming off of that, and by the way, the two people that were running that operation was

Keith Malinak (01:13:52.556)
They're everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13.932)
Roosevelt's, Kermit Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt's grandson. He was in charge of that CIA operation of overthrowing the Iranian president or prime minister. And the next year they moved to Guatemala. Guatemala had elected a new president that didn't believe, think about this in today's day and age where we are. His big complaint was he didn't believe a foreign

country ought to own their farmland. That was his big crime because that foreign company that owned the preponderance of the Guatemalan farmland was United Fruit. Who was United Fruit? The Rockefellers.

and

Speaker 2 (01:15:03.722)
And so he was going to compensate, but he was going to take that farmland back, kind of like what Arkansas just did. here we are, all of this time, 80 years later, and we're going, hey, we don't think that's a good idea. And me, I'm like, why didn't you think that 80 years ago when America was going all over the world and buying up everybody else's farmland? So anyway.

I just think the irony of all of this is just crazy.

I know, you don't even know where to step into the stream because it's just so much, know. Can we, go ahead.

I'll just jump right in with.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48.034)
Well, let me just finish the Guatemalan thing. everybody says, well, they just wanted to keep United and not pay them. That is absolutely not true. Do you know what they said? We will pay you the tax value that you have used to pay taxes to the country of Guatemalan the entire time you've owned this. So say it was a million dollars.

United Fruit turned around and goes, no, that land's worth $20 million. And the Guatemalan government says, well, why haven't you been paying taxes on $20 million then? And so they were not only kicking them out, they were going to compensate them for the value that they themselves declared that it was valued at, and that wasn't good enough. So they just pick up the phone, they call Eisenhower, and they say, hey, get rid of that guy. And he did.

That's right. Yeah. No, you're absolutely right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So then we get to Kennedy and he realizes, holy crap, there's a there's a whole lot of mess going on in this world and the root of it is the CIA and I need to need to smash it to bits and scatter the pieces of the wind or some loose quote like that. So so it's

So Eisenhower is not a good guy.

Keith Malinak (01:17:13.206)
It becomes more more clear as you learn the the. Yeah, as you learn what else happening in the world when Kennedy becomes president and realizes, you know, and you realize that he's not a part of this nonsense, then it just becomes so painfully clear. I don't need I don't need our government to to release all the files or anything like that. It comes pretty obvious.

The real story.

Keith Malinak (01:17:42.232)
pretty fast that the CIA is behind that. And LBJ, of course, especially when you think about the whole Operation Gladio and it's so anyway, we get we get to LBJ who is absolutely on board with this stuff. He loves it. And

He had his own personal assassin.

Yeah, okay. Hold on explain this one. I think I know you're talking

So I don't remember his name off the top of my head, but LBJ rigged the Senate election, the guy at the golf course.

Hold on, on, hold Hold on, your internet's breaking up here. And I don't want to miss this because I do not know this about the golf course. Hold on. All right, tell us.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37.592)
So LBJ rigged the Senate election. There was a whole bunch of various things that went on that got him into the Senate.

Box eight I think it was right or something box. So extra ballot it was just it was like it was like finding a a box load of ballots in the back seat of a car in Minnesota to get Al Franken elected but continue.

Something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01.89)
something like that. so, so, traveling and there were a lot dead bodies in the area. one of them was shot on a golf course in Texas and that same guy ended up killing another guy that was investigating that. And then there's another guy that

he, he worked something like the Texas agricultural or something like that and was doing an investigation. He kind of stumbled onto this information. He's found dead in his truck. So it was just body after body after body. And I don't remember the guy's name, but he was basically LBJ's hired assassin.

We had the guy recently sit down with my boss, Glenn Beck, and play an audio tape of his dad, or I forget exactly what it was, he was, LBJ was such an evil, evil son of a bitch. Everything about that man is grotesque, everything.

Damn!

Speaker 2 (01:20:11.374)
Do you know the story of the USS Liberty?

enough to understand as you're it'll all come back to me as you're

Okay, so in the lead up now keep in mind what I told you about crypto AG. We know everything. So supposedly Egypt who had Nasser as the president and had broken free from Britain, they kicked the British out of the Suez Canal, the Britain.

British was totally pissed off. They tried to assassinate them, blah, blah, almost like Mosaddegh. Because Mosaddegh, did the same thing. The British tried to overthrow Mosaddegh before us. And I didn't, I didn't even tell you that piece of the overthrow of Iran. That was British petroleum. So why would we even be involved in overthrowing it? Because Standard Oil ended up with part of the concession after the overthrow. So Standard Oil picks up the phone.

and calls Eisenhower and says, yeah, get rid of him. I've already worked the deal with BP and if you use RCIA, I'm going to get a share. Not us, the American people, Standard Oil. Standard Oil ended up with part of the concession after the overthrow of Mosaddegh in Iran. So same thing. Same thing in Egypt. So the British is persona non grata in Egypt. They get kicked out of the Suez Canal.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44.462)
Well now everybody's pissed. Israel's pissed. The British is pissed. And the US is pissed. So LBJ decides we're going to send a reconnaissance ship with four guns. Tiny little guns. Two on each end. It is a spy ship.

to Russia to get started over. It's a ship for what?

It's a reconnaissance ship. a spy ship. It has a total of four guns, two on each end. couldn't even hit a fly with it. we're going to send it to international waters off the coast of Israel and Egypt.

This is where the story picks up in my brain. didn't know the backstory, but yes, okay.

So they're going to just go in international waters up and down the coast. And the story of the Six-Day War was Egypt was amassing their army and was imminently going to attack Israel. The problem with that was twofold. 75,000 Egyptian army troops were in Yemen because the British had started a fight

Speaker 2 (01:23:14.698)
in Yemen because they knew Egypt would send a deployment down there to fight them down there. So Egypt did exactly that. 75,000 Egyptian army troops are deployed to Yemen. They had no troops to amass on the border. Egypt had bought Crypto AG. The CIA was spying on everything Egypt said. They knew they had no

troops amassed on the border. But Israel attacks Egypt anyway. Knowing they're not under imminent attack. The whole thing was set up as a lie. That the whole thing was a regime change to get Nasser out of power. So so Britain could get back to the Suez Canal. And it failed in that objective. But caught in the crosshairs

was USS Liberty. what they were going to do is they were going to sink the USS Liberty as a way of justifying getting the United States into that war to take out Nasser. If you read the book called Operation Sinai, they have documented proof of all of this to include B-52 pilots sitting on a runway

with engines running to take off and drop bombs on Egypt. They're just waiting for the USS Liberty to get sunk.

Keith Malinak (01:24:54.734)
I didn't know half of what I thought I knew on this.

So of course USS Liberty doesn't get sunk. There are survivors and every one of those survivors said that they were surveilled for almost 24 hours by Israeli aircraft jamming their communications. Now we just recently found out a couple of years ago that the day before the attack on the USS Liberty,

there had been a massacre of Egyptian prisoners by Israelis exactly where the USS Liberty was sailing. Now if you understand what capability the USS Liberty had on board. So they had linguists that spoke whatever Hebrew

They spoke whatever the language Arabic. They had all the foreign languages covered. They are using satellite technology to intercept all radio calls. They were listening to the pilots talk about them. They had the it was the state of the art spy.

equipment on that ship at the time. And there were radio transmissions of the IDF telling IDF headquarters telling the IDF soldiers in Egypt to murder these prisoners that they had as POWs. About I don't know three or four years ago they found the mass grave.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53.006)
right off the coast of where the Liberty was. Now, there's no doubt in my mind, I don't have a piece of paper saying, yes, the Liberty intercepted these radio transmissions. I know what their capability is though. There's no way they wouldn't have interpreted and caught that transmission. But there was an order given to, and I think it was like hundred POWs, they were just shot in the head and buried in a mass grave.

They were recently failed. And that caused all kinds of uproars over there as a result of that. And as soon as I read that article, because I know all of this other stuff, I was like, holy crap, the USS Liberty would have picked that up. There's no way they were gonna go home alive.

Keith Malinak (01:27:44.618)
Okay. Man, where do we go here? Okay, let me do this. So, and I know we're jumping around. It's just the way the conversation is going to go here. CIA, we haven't even touched on the mafia. The mafia finds a willing partner to launder money in the Catholic Church. go ahead.

Let me correct you. The mafia became the distribution network. The operation of selling opium needed processing to turn it into heroin, which is where the mafia came in. And they needed a distribution network inside the United States, which is where the mafia came in.

Hmm?

Keith Malinak (01:28:35.342)
But at a certain point, correct me I'm wrong, in the timeline, the mafia realizes they're the ones that go to the Catholic Church, right? To move this money through.

Well, there's an entire network of how that money laundering happened. They didn't like physically go up to the Vatican.

Knock, knock, knock. Hey, we need to garner some money.

The mafia in Italy is just processing it. So they're getting paid and there was other banks like Banco, Ambrosiana and others that, so they get paid when the shipment leaves port. So their money has to get laundered. And then when you come into the United States,

the distribution network money needs to get laundered.

Keith Malinak (01:29:44.494)
Yeah, so and and and like I said, you know, I'm just starting to learn this entire story. There's so many players, there's so many names. And as you go through this, it's just it's overwhelming. So let's can we can we go can we go through the popes that have been involved in Operation Gladio along the way and what's happened to them? And I mean, we got

We gotta talk about Pope John Paul I, especially. But take us to the first pope that gets involved in this, and can you walk us through the different roles that each pope has had along the way? And right up to today, let's speculate, I guess. But before we do that, can we start at the beginning and go through the popes and their different roles in all of this?

So Pope Pius XII was the first one. He was Pope until 1958. So from the beginning of the operation until 1958, it was Pope Pius and he was intimately involved. And I think...

Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06.21)
I don't have them off the top of my head. Let me see if I can, if I have it in my notes. Hold on just a second.

No, you take your time, please. it's just, it's fascinating to see these handpicked successors. And when you look through the lens of Operation Gladio and the choices of popes, it's staggering. I mean, Francis was mentioned way back. mean, that guy.

Well, is tied to Operation Condor.

Okay.

Keith Malinak (01:31:48.012)
Right, he is.

He was in Argentina when they were taking people up in aircraft and dumping them out in the water. So all of the torture that went in, went on in Argentina, all of the people murdered in Argentina during that dictatorship as part of Operation Gladio was oversaw by the pope. And people go, well, he didn't have anything to do with it. Argentina was 95 % Catholic.

all the Pope had or all the Archbishop at the time had to say is stop this nonsense. Instead, he turned his Pope, his priest in for torture. Two of them was picked up because he turned them in as being dissidents. So he didn't just ignore it. He actively participated in it.

Yeah, and that guy, that guy. So let's do this. Let's do this. Obviously, Pope Francis, his fingerprints are all over Gladio for almost its entire existence, really. But Pope John Paul I, quite an interesting papacy for him. It lasted a whole 33 days. And boy, that death and the aftermath of that,

The word suspicious definitely comes up. What was his deal?

Speaker 2 (01:33:19.544)
So, when he knew about what the Vatican was doing, one of his first orders of business is he wanted the Vatican bank audited.

Signed a death warrant there.

We.

Yes, literally. So the morning of his death, the nun that walked in and found him described his body as being arched. So that indicates cyanide poisoning because and that's how we know the Jonestown Kool-Aid thing didn't happen because the way your bodies are when you're poisoned with that is the back of your head.

and the heels of your feet are the only thing touching. It does something to your body that makes it contort and bow up. And that's the way he was found.

Keith Malinak (01:34:16.526)
I think we have a future deep dive. The Jonestown massacre never happened. My goodness, right? one.

No, it happened. It just didn't happen.

by the way. Okay. Gotcha.

Yeah, that's a whole nother story. can do a whole show with Jim Jones. Jim Jones was a CIA agent in Brazil during the overthrow of the Brazilian government too.

Okay.

Keith Malinak (01:34:37.868)
Hold on, what did I just say? Throw a dart? Yeah, it hit that one. Yeah.

Ha!

Speaker 2 (01:34:43.968)
Okay. So yeah. John Paul I, he has according to the nun paperwork all over his bed dealing with the bank. The nun is shipped off to a nunnery and never heard from again. She was killed.

Yeah, and remember the story that they came out was he was holding, he was reading a book, was it? The Confessions of Christ. What was it? It was something, like it was a complete fabrication, but really it was all of these papers and then the way he died, in addition to what you just described, like his teeth, what was it? Eyes were out of his socket. His face was all grimaced and just.

gentle.

So the the guy that I think is the most interesting isn't even the Pope's. It's Archbishop Marsenkes. Do you remember that name?

Is he the guy who comes in there and?

Speaker 2 (01:35:48.084)
Chicago?

Yes, I'm trying to think here. I just remember that they embalmed the pope and there was no chance of a blood test. And it's something that they don't even do to the pope. And it was just insane. You never saw his slippers. You never saw his glasses ever again. All the evidence, just wipe clean before they told anybody. But remind me the Chicago guy.

Correct. We got to get.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14.734)
Okay, so Marsinkus is the Archbishop in Chicago. He is doing business with the mafia and they bank at the same bank in Chicago. Okay, so he gets selected of all the Archbishops to go run the Vatican Bank. He is all over

Operation Gladio. He's the guy that was dealing with Calvi, the Benko and Brogiano guy that was found hanging off of a bridge in London. He's the guy that was dealing with Sedona, the Vatican banker that was setting up all the fake companies for the Vatican and money laundering. And Marcinkus, as the revelations in Italy are

coming to light in the 1990s, they want to talk to him. Well, of course, it's a sovereign within a sovereign. The Vatican Bank is sovereign in and of itself within the sovereign St. Peter's, which is sovereign from Italy. And so they don't have any subpoena capability or anything else. there's the...

killing of a young girl that supposedly he had been having sex with. And so things are getting so crazy around him that he one day just leaves the Vatican and flies to the United States and retires in Arizona. Italy constantly is badgering the State Department to extradite him back to Italy to stay in trial. The State Department will not

do it. He died in Sun City,

Keith Malinak (01:38:14.158)
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, so how is it that we get from Pope John Paul the first, who is clearly, clearly murdered. And then we get to Pope John Paul the second. But he is interesting in that

He fits the bill of being anti-communist. correct me if I'm wrong, the impression I got was that it's not like he was read into Operation Gladio from the start. It's almost like he kind of, I don't know, just kind of, just became a party.

it. He was fine with it because he knew that they were making billions of dollars off of.

Yes, that becomes very clear that Pope John Paul II was just fine with the printing presses.

news, he was going to use to the Vatican to pay ba is kind of

Keith Malinak (01:39:34.412)
Right, right. And so much the same way you've ruined Eisenhower for us, you're going to ruin Pope John Paul II for us as well, right?

Well, I mean, he at least was going to use it for something good. Right. And so you got that. Again, you're not allowed to talk to the Soviet Union. And they were willing to talk to him about it. They were in desperate need of money. But it was not going to be allowed to happen. So they shot him. And he talked to him again.

I'm gonna that one for you.

Keith Malinak (01:40:03.99)
Right, that's the thing. This goes back to what I said at the beginning.

you

whether it's threats or, or blackmail, blackmail. mean, they, get to you eventually. And with him, you're exactly right. That assassination attempt, which I mean, it was, you know what that was? That was exactly how you hear Reagan was this close to death. That's what it sounded like with the Pope, the attending physician, right?

But you understand, but you understand this was a trained basset. If they wanted the poke at he died that day. This guy. For tons of murders.

Two bullets hit his hand. Two bullets hit his stomach, right? Mm-hmm. Kill So it was a message we... Okay. Yeah, all right. Well, it was more that apparently was moments away from outright killing him. Okay, so we got to get back to Pope Benedict. Or we got to get to Pope Benedict.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57.132)
Yeah, okay. weren't aiming to

It was a warning.

Keith Malinak (01:41:19.835)
before we get to Pope Francis. Benedict, he, his, because maybe people don't remember, he resigned.

Yeah.

And it's almost like, did he just want out of the game? Because he was was Pope for about eight years. And did he just decide, you know what, the heat's too hot? What was that all about? Any idea there?

Not really. mean, that's kind of my assessment of it that.

I have not read a lot of information about his implication. There's not been anything of recorded conversations with him like there were with all of the others.

Keith Malinak (01:42:08.334)
It's really tough to pin down his role and what he knew. Wouldn't you say? that fair? Okay. then Francis comes along and my gosh.

a second, when was, when was Benedict? Yes, because he didn't come in until 2005. And a lot of the real big reveals had already been. Right. Yeah.

And then that's when really what surfaced was the pedophilia and what was happening in the Catholic Church, which surprise, so much of it connected to Gladio. Okay, I don't know if you want to spend any more time on Francis, what I wanted to do is when I... Such a bad guy. Like when did his...

He's just dirty.

Keith Malinak (01:43:04.802)
I don't want to take it off of this screen that it's on. Back when you were talking about flying over the water and everything, do you know off top of your head what year that was roughly? how, what I'm trying to establish is how long was Francis? What's his timeline with Gladio? Obviously as Pope, but I mean, how far back when he was lowered down the old Catholic official chain?

I've got it my note.

Nope, that's fine. Take your time because while you do that, I want to just briefly touch on Publio, who's been in office for two and a half months now. And as I'm absorbing Operation Gladio and getting to know all the players, and obviously Francis is a key figure in all of the heinous stuff that has been happening for decades, I want to believe

I want to believe that Pope Leo XIV is not a part of any of this. don't know. Obviously, there's still a deep state and there's still a CIA and there's still plenty happening in the world that shouldn't be happening. But is it just

not as centralized as the conglomeration less than it was? Is it at least disrupted enough? You mentioned what Trump did breaking up the thing in 2020, the communication back channel CIA. Are we at least at the edge of the forest? Are we looking out there seeing some daylight or are we still screwed over?

Speaker 2 (01:44:53.664)
No, I definitely think we're at the edge of the forest. Yeah, so.

I'm about to drag you back a few decades into another story once we discuss Francis if you wanted to talk about his timeline.

so it looks like he was made archbishop in 98. but that's a little after the the murdering going on in Argentina.

I mean Pope Francis was the tailor-made Operation Gladio Pope for sure.

yeah, absolutely. I think if I recall right, he's from Peru. Yeah. Chicago. Yeah, I'm thinking about a different one. Yeah, that's fine. American one. Yeah.

Keith Malinak (01:45:38.049)
he's from Chicago.

Keith Malinak (01:45:45.314)
Yeah, Pope Leo. so I'm hoping things are... I don't know. To me, my early test is...

But he was in Peru. He was in... And while he was in Peru, they protected a huge pedophile down there and shipped him to the Vatican and did not hold him accountable in Peru. That was the only thing I found on him as it related to this whole thing.

you're right.

Keith Malinak (01:46:17.186)
You're right. I'd forgotten about his Peru connection. don't like hearing what you just said there. I was not aware of that. Everyone's got something. I right? All right. So I'm going to drag you back. I just told you that I'm going to drag you. Let's go back to your discussion on Iran. And you've successfully, through this knowledge that we're gaining through Operation Gladio,

You're Eisenhower for us. You're ruining Pope John Paul II for us. So let's go for the trifecta. Go ahead and ruin Ronald Reagan for us, would you? And be in contrast.

Okay so obviously not even just talking about Operation Gladio you know and again Ronald Reagan was my very first vote out of high school. I voted for him. I had just enlisted in the Air Force so I was a pro-Reagan you know all of my life until two years ago.

But when you start going back and you look at Reagan from the time he was in charge of the Screen Actors Guild out in California. Okay, so his protector, his connection is whatever you want to call him, handler. Lew Wasserman. Lew Wasserman was a media mogul out there.

that basically was responsible for Reagan being the president of the Screen Actors Guild. And Reagan, the entire time he's the president of the Screen Actors Guild, gave one waiver to a talent agency owning or using the movie part of it. You were not allowed to do the two. So if you had a talent agency, you couldn't use just your actors.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18.766)
He gave a waiver to one person and that was Lou Wasserman to do that. Lou Wasserman was the largest private donor to Ronald Reagan's run as governor in California. Now there's some pieces there, I'm not even gonna pay attention to them. So he becomes president. George H.W. Bush, Mr. CIO.

And keep in mind, Reagan really rooted out some communists back in the old Hollywood. anyway, See what I wanted. Okay, I'm glad you said that because I'm thinking from Adam's history, right? I read, you know, he was in there rooting them out. But now post-Gladiol, you're like,

communist. I don't know who's communist or not.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14.302)
know if somebody could define an actual communist since they call people right so i've anytime i hear somebody called a communist i ignore them other than the ccp i mean they clearly are

Okay, so you started to talk about George H.W. Bush. I'm sorry.

All right, so he's the vice president. That's nefarious in and of itself. Yeah, I understand how those deals are made. All right, so he gives amnesty to, you know, a million some people and promises he's going to secure the border, which he never does. He gives, he signed the law that gave big pharma vaccine exemptions for liability.

And so there's all of these non-Gladio things that he's doing that is not consistent with anything that would make him a great president. Okay. So if you look at what Gladio stuff he was involved in, I'll pick two. The first one was obviously Nicaragua. The Sandinistas come to power and overthrow the government that the CIA had put in place. They hate the Sandinistas. So they got to get rid of

So the Cuban exile group which is basically our gladiola in Miami all start getting trained up to deploy to El Salvador, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Guatemala because we basically control all those countries too because we've already overthrown them. And they have death squads, they have terrorist training camps, blah, blah. So you follow some of the people that

Speaker 2 (01:50:57.71)
are known terrorists in the Cuban exile community like the brigade 2506 and you find them all having just got back the decade before from Vietnam you find them all in Latin America trying to overthrow the Sandinista government. don't know how they survived actually but so they find out that they're used the congress finds out that they're literally using death squads

They're torturing people, they're burning down entire villages in Nicaragua and they cut off funding. And they say, yeah, Mr. Reagan, you're not going to do that anymore. Not with taxpayer dollars. So they decide that they need to do some illegal weapon sales in order to raise money to do this. So they pick up the phone and they call Israel and they say, hey, we want to give you the money to ship missiles

to Iran and again this person that we're told is a radical crazy religious freak in Iran that we have no control over at all is going to be reasonable and say hey yeah i'll pay you extra money for missiles because i'm at war with Iraq which by the way we were funding too.

No, I know!

We're actually funding Iraq in the war officially. So we're now shipping missiles with using Israel as a cutout to Iran and Gor- Gorbanifar was one of the guys that was involved in the the missile deal and a couple others and so we take that money give it to Oliver North. He runs down and buys a whole bunch of

Speaker 2 (01:52:55.054)
equipment and gives it to the Contras. And so this is known to everybody in the White House. This is being ran out of the National Security Council and the CIA. So what was also being done? Well, the Contras was selling drugs as well. So we're using the aircraft because everywhere there's going to be a war, there's going to be drug trafficking. And because you have

um, aircraft going into h Columbia, wherever, and we' out. Those drugs are traf very still tells that whol money making venture for t for the contrast, which is illegal according to Cong a shit. But that wasn't th

No, right Reagan also decided that we were not going to allow Angola to elect a president So we are going to decide who's going to lead Angola well Angola if you look on a map is very close to where the Congo is where Katanga is which we just talked about and The guy that we installed in the Congo's

I can't remember if he's a nephew or an uncle or whatever, but he's related to that dictator. So we want him, he's in charge of like the Unita faction. So there's three factions fighting for power in Angola. There's only one that lives in the cities that are college educated that could actually run a country. That's the group we don't want.

We want the corrupt guy that's related to the other dictator that's going to allow us to rob them blind. So we work out another deal with Israel because it's illegal to do what I'm about to describe according to Congress. We're going to ship weapons to Israel. Israel is going to take them into South Africa for us. And we're going to run them across the border into Angola from South Africa, which was apartheid at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17.186)
So all of these weapons go flowing into the group that, and by the way, we use the Cuban exiles. There's a shit ton of them in Angola fighting with United and these opposition forces to what will eventually become the legitimate government of Angola. And so that was all done during Reagan. Every single part of that was illegal.

Keith Malinak (01:55:45.422)
Yeah, and we haven't even talked about Iran before Reagan took office and the hostages that could have come home months earlier.

So again, if you go back to the whole understanding of the interplay between the embassy staffs and the CIA, I would say upwards of 75 % of every embassy staff is CIA under the guise of some other thing. USAID, know, the military attache, the cultural attache, they're all CIA. So as a matter of fact, you find them going back and forth.

That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29.358)
all the time. So what have come away, with is that the entire, so I have to preface this and I'm not saying Jimmy Carter is a good guy either. Jimmy Carter is the only president within months of taking office, conducted the Halloween massacre and fired almost the entire branch of the covert operations. Yeah. But every last one of them.

But put a bookmark there because we got to come back to Carter.

Okay, so in getting rid of the, they didn't actually go away. They created this thing called the Safari Club over in Kenya. Kenya, let me say that again, in Kenya, and basically just re-employed everybody to hang out until Reagan got in. So they had to get Reagan in because these guys are all hanging out waiting for Reagan to get in. And so you have this crazy up,

Students, students overthrew our embassy. If you guys believe that story, I'm going to sell you some land here in Swampy, Florida. Students do not overthrow an embassy with armed Marines. It doesn't happen. But that's the story we were fed. These students overthrew our embassy and took all of these people hostages.

It's and I do I have confirmed at least three of the hostages were CIA. So they just hang out for a year. This becomes the millstone around Carter. Bush and Alexander Haig and several other Bush acolytes have meetings in Europe. And where did the Ayatollah come from? he was hanging out in France until he was installed.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27.03)
right? So what? I about died when I thought that. Surely he's hanging out in some Shia country, not France. No he was hanging out in France. and so he's flown in and you know this hostage thing happens and then he decides through a missile deal. This is missile deal number two. This is not the Iran

Contra missile deal. was an earlier shipment that we used as a payback for him holding the hostages over the election day.

That's it. Everything you know is wrong. You know, it's just like.

No, everything you know is wrong.

I'm in it in a more universal sin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. okay, well, it just, it's really, know, learning our history and looking in the nooks and crannies is dangerous as hell. Because you're not ever, just know this going in. You're never going to like what is revealed. I've learned that as a general rule. If you dig any,

Keith Malinak (01:59:44.938)
It's gonna suck. Unless it's this guy, Calvin Coolidge. Other than that, who dare ruin Calvin Coolidge for me? I'll shut this livestream down, woman.

Right, you're also.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58.126)
You're also going to get completely throttled on any social media that you're on as well. Nobody wants to talk about this in front them.

Yeah, yeah. I gotta talk about Argentina. This is where that bookmark, unless you had more on Iran that you wanted to.

So I've got about five minutes and then I gotta run.

Okay, understood. Well, let's do Argentina real quick. This, from my understanding, according to my chicken scratch notes, Ford, Carter and Reagan were all knowledgeable, it sounded like, of all the heinous torture happening in Argentina with the electrocutions and the the children being sold. It is two children with their their heads smashed. I mean, that's what we know of. And it's just

And it's all connected to, say it with me, the CIA training these monsters to go and do this stuff and take control at all costs. And it's absolutely just gut wrenching learning this history.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01.026)
So Fort Fresno, Fresno's I think in Southern Texas was the bomb school that the Office of Public Safety sent all of these people to. It was an abandoned World War II base, but almost all of these people were trained in Washington DC at a place called the International Police Academy. A lot of the graduates of the International Police Academy

were also attended the School of Americas, which was ran by the CIA and the Army in Panama. And then several of those graduates, the top of those graduates was sent on to a Taiwanese school called the Political Workfare Cadre Academy, where they learned even more advanced techniques on torture.

It's just.

I just finished this for your audience. I just finished a book review over the last couple of weeks called Hidden Terrors by A.J. Landguth. And it goes into excruciating detail of people's recounting of the torture that they were subject to. All on the suspicion, no evidence.

that they were a rebel against the CIA installed dictator.

Keith Malinak (02:02:29.024)
I just I hate it. It just makes you sick to your stomach. Alright, I know you have to jet. Please go and check out the Colonel's rumble channel. It's the Colonel's Corner. And and basically it's like a it's like a book club of enlightenment, really, right? You just kind of learn the real history happening in in the world, courtesy of your country.

And you actually, just to give myself a pat on the back. Please, please. When you go through one of the books, you don't just get that author's information. I'm bringing the other 105 books worth of it.

It's just kind of the doorway into the subject, right? Yeah.

And so there has been occasion when something that a particular author says, in my opinion, is not the correct assessment. And we kind of have a chat about, you and you make the decision, you decide what your opinion is. But there are some, I used Doug Valentine, who is a very, very liberal writer, but very, very knowledgeable about Vietnam and the Phoenix program.

He makes some assessments that I vehemently disagree with because he only sees fault on one side of the aisle. But you can't ignore those riders. Right. Right. access to people that no one else. Some officers, there's so many crimes over there, they'll never step foot in the United States again. And he went over there and interviewed them. So you can't ignore those sources.

Keith Malinak (02:03:56.28)
See you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:12.77)
But I just kind of walk through those books. And again, you get all of the knowledge, not just that one author's.

Alright, well check it out over on the Rumble channel, the Colonel's Corner, and don't forget to follow her on X. I gotta put my fancy graphic up for you at Colonel Towner. I appreciate it. Absolutely. I was about to say it's always a pleasure talking with you, but that would be an untrue statement. No, it's always enlightening and enjoyable as much as it can be. you enlighten us on Operation Gladio and I'm sure we'll...

pick this up again at some point but appreciate all of your time. Go and follow her. Check out her Rumble channel and I look forward to talking to you again in the future. So I'm gonna I'm gonna set you free. I'm gonna spend a few more minutes here in the audience but I'm gonna wish you the best and and I'll talk to you again soon. Okay. Thank you very much. care. okay kids. right. So much information and and it's all depressing. No.

I just wanted to give you all a heads up that tomorrow we'll do the Friday live stream and I have a lot of animal videos in the queue because we need animal videos. So that'll be fun. We'll do drinks with Keith. I mean, I don't know how I made it through that without going to the grimace glass, but that'll definitely have to be a part of tomorrow's show with Rebecca and Brad here hanging out. And then a week from today, I'm doing this off memory here, y'all hang on.

A week from today is, this, it's, I think it's like National Whistleblowers Day. I'm going to be joined by three whistleblowers. I'm not letting whistleblowers fade off into the sunset forgotten forever. Three whistleblowers that have never been on this program. I've had several in the past, but a handful of honorable individuals who will be here a week from today, July 31st. And then August 7th is a Barfleet.

Keith Malinak (02:06:13.634)
Yeah, look at this. I'm kind of proud of myself right now, because I know I can see the end here. So it's going to whistleblowers next Thursday. The deep dive after that, the next Thursday is going to be the Barfleet with Brad and Kelly. Lots of stuff to get to. And then on Thursday, August 14th, we're going to do Roswell, the Roswell incident in the cover up, part two. Part one is pinned to the top here in the archives. You scroll up, look for the deep dives.

You'll find It's a fascinating chat. encourage you to go and watch that before August 14th. So those are the next few Thursday deep dives. And of course, we've got the Friday live streams coming up as well. will try to have a little fun. So anyway, I am so grateful for all of you and the time that you spend here on my ex channel. This will be up later on YouTube and Rumble, Spotify, et cetera, et cetera.

Big shout out to Hero West for making all of those happen. And of course, over on the Instagram, at the Mike Show, where Gabby does an excellent job as well. So I will see you all about 22 hours from now, and we'll mess around on the Friday live stream. Until then, I hope you have a great rest of the day. Please be safe out there.